Lewis Hamilton
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HARTLEYHARE1 said:
Great job and should Vettel kept his head would have been a great year
Lewis no doubt very talented but needs to leave the powerful house of Mercedes and join a smaller team to help them grow to achieve a true championship
Hmm, didn’t Hamilton win Mercedes’ First championship in the modern era??Lewis no doubt very talented but needs to leave the powerful house of Mercedes and join a smaller team to help them grow to achieve a true championship
Pretty sure he’s already done what you describe.
Oh, and he also won Mclarens first drivers championship in 10 years.
The idea that Hamilton has to do x, y or z before he can be considered a ‘true great’ is just crazy. All the evidence you need is in front of your eyes.
HARTLEYHARE1 said:
The McLaren was a Mercedes engine wasn’t it
Not looking to ruffle anyone but just feel for Lewis to be considered a real champion he needs this
Please tell me, what teams did Schumacher win titles with? Ah yes Benetton and ferrari...2 Top teams. Other than Braun, which small teams have won f1 titles in the last 30 odd years?Not looking to ruffle anyone but just feel for Lewis to be considered a real champion he needs this
nyxster said:
I’m not having a go at him, it was the press who were tearing into him over it and his Monaco residency.
He imported a Challenger Jet into the EU, which as his personal jet he was l9able to pay VAT on. His advisors constructing a scheme whereby he registered it in the Isle Of Man through one com-any that then leased it to a management company that then rented it back to him that allowed him to reclaim the VAT, which he wouldn’t be able to claim if he hadn’t used that scheme and straight forward declared it as his own jet.
I’m not saying he did anything illegal, but simply that by virtue of being a Monaco tax exile and using ‘aggressive’ tax reduction schemes on his jet he[s given political ammunition to the Corbyn class that he shouldn’t get a knighthood.
Just sounds like he has a switched on Tax advisor/accountant to me. He imported a Challenger Jet into the EU, which as his personal jet he was l9able to pay VAT on. His advisors constructing a scheme whereby he registered it in the Isle Of Man through one com-any that then leased it to a management company that then rented it back to him that allowed him to reclaim the VAT, which he wouldn’t be able to claim if he hadn’t used that scheme and straight forward declared it as his own jet.
I’m not saying he did anything illegal, but simply that by virtue of being a Monaco tax exile and using ‘aggressive’ tax reduction schemes on his jet he[s given political ammunition to the Corbyn class that he shouldn’t get a knighthood.
Congrats to LH. He's worthy of every single one of his five WDCs. As a Lewis fan, I'm chuffed to bits.
As for all the tax chat, just remember that tax havens in the likes of the Cayman Islands and the IOM bring in a tonne of money into the UK coffers. Each and every one of us would try and pay as little tax as possible so I don't know why LH was singled out for criticism on this.
Back to the racing, well done Lewis.
As for all the tax chat, just remember that tax havens in the likes of the Cayman Islands and the IOM bring in a tonne of money into the UK coffers. Each and every one of us would try and pay as little tax as possible so I don't know why LH was singled out for criticism on this.
Back to the racing, well done Lewis.
Well done Lewis.
He stepped up another gear this season.
Max has also improved this year, I hope this continues as he's the next one to bring it to Lewis.
Now on a serious note a common debate is Fangio, Senna, Schumacher.... Which was best? How long until Lewis nudges himself into that top 3?
He stepped up another gear this season.
Max has also improved this year, I hope this continues as he's the next one to bring it to Lewis.
Now on a serious note a common debate is Fangio, Senna, Schumacher.... Which was best? How long until Lewis nudges himself into that top 3?
Sir Bagalot said:
Now on a serious note a common debate is Fangio, Senna, Schumacher.... Which was best? How long until Lewis nudges himself into that top 3?
He's absolutely in the category already. Fangio is still my all-time number one though.Senna and Schu both awesome but for me the dirty driving takes too much away from their legacies.
Sir Bagalot said:
Now on a serious note a common debate is Fangio, Senna, Schumacher.... Which was best? How long until Lewis nudges himself into that top 3?
Well, as mentioned previously, Senna and Schumacher dirty racing makes them stand well behind Hamilton. Fangio, great but not comparable. He won his titles in his 40s, it shows that F1 weren't that physical to drive in his period or how easy the competition was. look at Schumacher how he got destroyed when he came back to F1 in his early 40s, the speed and physical requirement to drive a modern F1 is far more difficult than 1940-50-60s and the competition is only made of pro drivers unlike in the old days.Hamilton is above all that lot and done it this year in an inferior car for most of the year and last year.
37chevy said:
HARTLEYHARE1 said:
The McLaren was a Mercedes engine wasn’t it
Not looking to ruffle anyone but just feel for Lewis to be considered a real champion he needs this
Please tell me, what teams did Schumacher win titles with? Ah yes Benetton and ferrari...2 Top teams. Other than Braun, which small teams have won f1 titles in the last 30 odd years?Not looking to ruffle anyone but just feel for Lewis to be considered a real champion he needs this
Nice video from BBC, footage that’s done the rounds before but, very apt at this time:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/formula1/45764526
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/formula1/45764526
yonex said:
Can’t stand him, he was always going to wrap this up and no doubt, a huge talent. But. I can’t stand him, everything he posts on social media and every whinge to the press.
Have a look at the interview he did with sky in the ‘pen’ after the race. Very humble and very generous and very honest. I can’t see what is not to like.The same actually for the honesty and dignity of Vettel yesterday, too.
37chevy said:
yonex said:
Can’t stand him, he was always going to wrap this up and no doubt, a huge talent. But. I can’t stand him, everything he posts on social media and every whinge to the press.
So why look at his social media stuff? You can scroll past you know Very odd.
E34-3.2 said:
Sir Bagalot said:
Now on a serious note a common debate is Fangio, Senna, Schumacher.... Which was best? How long until Lewis nudges himself into that top 3?
Well, as mentioned previously, Senna and Schumacher dirty racing makes them stand well behind Hamilton. Fangio, great but not comparable. He won his titles in his 40s, it shows that F1 weren't that physical to drive in his period or how easy the competition was. look at Schumacher how he got destroyed when he came back to F1 in his early 40s, the speed and physical requirement to drive a modern F1 is far more difficult than 1940-50-60s and the competition is only made of pro drivers unlike in the old days.Hamilton is above all that lot and done it this year in an inferior car for most of the year and last year.
Fangio had a lot more to deal with than Hamilton did - chiefly overcoming the very real and present danger of death doing his job - and having to deal with death when it occured to others (as it very often did).
It's also wrong to state that driving in his era was less physical. The cars may not have delivered the high Gs that the modern down force monsters do - but the races were longer, the tracks/circuits far more arduous to drive and (as mentioned earlier) the psychological pressure of avoiding mistakes ever present.
The physical requirements were different - but they weren't absent.
It's also wrong to state that driving in his era was less physical. The cars may not have delivered the high Gs that the modern down force monsters do - but the races were longer, the tracks/circuits far more arduous to drive and (as mentioned earlier) the psychological pressure of avoiding mistakes ever present.
The physical requirements were different - but they weren't absent.
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