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The problem is he will be saying the same thing wherever he goes around the world amazing people with his rags to riches battle from out the gutters of his slum and there’s no one there from his past to say ‘errr hang on a minute son’, he forgot he was on home soil where people know where Stevenage is and what it’s like and it’s no different from most UK towns that have had a lack of investment and upkeep,
I like Paul McCartney but he also bangs on about his rough childhood and neighbourhood if you know the area and the reality it is somewhat different.
Showed my Mrs the video and she said ‘oh is that the guy who won X-Factor’ ?
All that said he’s a phenomenal driver
I like Paul McCartney but he also bangs on about his rough childhood and neighbourhood if you know the area and the reality it is somewhat different.
Showed my Mrs the video and she said ‘oh is that the guy who won X-Factor’ ?
All that said he’s a phenomenal driver
DS240 said:
It is comments like this that really keep knocking back any sort of like for him.
Came from a ‘slum’.
If anything it shows such ignorance of what real poverty is.
Here we have Stevenage town centre...
It’s a matter of perspective though isn’t it. You’re right, that’s a slum, but it doesn’t stop someone who’s come from a council house sofa surfing from have a less than stellar opionion of a place and wanting to get out of it. Came from a ‘slum’.
If anything it shows such ignorance of what real poverty is.
Here we have Stevenage town centre...
Edited by DS240 on Tuesday 18th December 08:49
I’m sure if you ask a lot of people living in deprived areas of the UK they would call them slums
DS240 said:
HTP99 said:
DS240 said:
It is comments like this that really keep knocking back any sort of like for him.
Came from a ‘slum’.
If anything it shows such ignorance of what real poverty is.
Racist! Came from a ‘slum’.
If anything it shows such ignorance of what real poverty is.
I have a huge amount of respect for Hamilton as a driver as he is undoubtedly one of the best there is but as a human being he leaves so much to be desired.
My brother-in-law who live in the US is always telling me about fans out there who truly believe he was raised by a single black (!) mother in the equivalent of a Detroit ghetto and Hamilton does very little to alter that point of view.
My brother-in-law who live in the US is always telling me about fans out there who truly believe he was raised by a single black (!) mother in the equivalent of a Detroit ghetto and Hamilton does very little to alter that point of view.
Kraken said:
I have a huge amount of respect for Hamilton as a driver as he is undoubtedly one of the best there is but as a human being he leaves so much to be desired.
My brother-in-law who live in the US is always telling me about fans out there who truly believe he was raised by a single black (!) mother in the equivalent of a Detroit ghetto and Hamilton does very little to alter that point of view.
maybe its just because people who don't like his personality don't want to look. Maybe you should look at all the charity work he does, animal welfare, work with kids in karting etc. a lot of it goes unreported but theres plenty on google and youtube….My brother-in-law who live in the US is always telling me about fans out there who truly believe he was raised by a single black (!) mother in the equivalent of a Detroit ghetto and Hamilton does very little to alter that point of view.
people in America are gullible and don't bother finding out the truth.....how do you think they ended up with an orange moron as president
just to save you some time though
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=hbs...
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lewis...
Edited by 37chevy on Tuesday 18th December 09:24
Clearly he misspoke and tried to correct himself, he may well think that he lived in a slummy area, but it's hyperbole as clearly it's not a slum by any normal standards whatsoever.
I drive through Stevenage every week, a slum it is not, he really can't claim to have dragged himself out the ghetto I think you could see that he knew he'd made a mistake, but he has come along way from humble beginnings especially compared to many F1 drivers.
I drive through Stevenage every week, a slum it is not, he really can't claim to have dragged himself out the ghetto I think you could see that he knew he'd made a mistake, but he has come along way from humble beginnings especially compared to many F1 drivers.
Wills2 said:
Clearly he misspoke and tried to correct himself, he may well think that he lived in a slummy area, but it's hyperbole as clearly it's not a slum by any normal standards whatsoever.
I drive through Stevenage every week, a slum it is not, he really can't claim to have dragged himself out the ghetto I think you could see that he knew he'd made a mistake, but he has come along way from humble beginnings especially compared to many F1 drivers.
This. Loads of people making such a big deal. He correct the point he was making straight away. He didnt literally mean it. I grew up on a council estate and have bene know to call it a tongue in cheek 'ghetto'. Its not actually, but it was st in comparison to a lot of areas and we had zero money.I drive through Stevenage every week, a slum it is not, he really can't claim to have dragged himself out the ghetto I think you could see that he knew he'd made a mistake, but he has come along way from humble beginnings especially compared to many F1 drivers.
I turned to my with and laughed at that point. Said it was a little exaggerated but I was bang with him!
My time working in STV is known in our family as the time I loathed the place so much, it made me so depressed that it nearly put us through divorce.
STV is an absolute damn sthole and if Hamilton wants to describe it as a slum, then hell yes I’m with him. I describe it as far worse on a regular basis.
My time working in STV is known in our family as the time I loathed the place so much, it made me so depressed that it nearly put us through divorce.
STV is an absolute damn sthole and if Hamilton wants to describe it as a slum, then hell yes I’m with him. I describe it as far worse on a regular basis.
37chevy said:
maybe its just because people who don't like his personality don't want to look. Maybe you should look at all the charity work he does, animal welfare, work with kids in karting etc. a lot of it goes unreported but theres plenty on google and youtube….
people in America are gullible and don't bother finding out the truth.....how do you think they ended up with an orange moron as president
just to save you some time though
I'm well aware of what he does and doesn't do for charity. I've attended many charity racing events and met many different F1 and other drivers. Still to meet Hamilton though...people in America are gullible and don't bother finding out the truth.....how do you think they ended up with an orange moron as president
just to save you some time though
He doesn't do anything that the majority of other celebrities and sports stars do but the others don't go around pretending they've come from some terribly deprived background.
It's not just in the US that his fans have selective reasoning. I've lost count of the number of people over here who I've talked to who have said his dad was really poor. I've yet to meet a poor person who run theirs own IT consultancy business...
Edited by Kraken on Tuesday 18th December 10:21
Kraken said:
I I've yet to meet a poor person who run theirs own IT consultancy business...
That's not where he started out. They were far from well off and Anthony had four jobs at one point to try to support Lewis's early karting career.Edited by Kraken on Tuesday 18th December 10:21
It's all easy info to find if you are interested.
Kraken said:
I'm well aware of what he does and doesn't do for charity. I've attended many charity racing events and met many different F1 and other drivers. Still to meet Hamilton though...
He doesn't do anything that the majority of other celebrities and sports stars do but the others don't go around pretending they've come from some terribly deprived background.
It's not just in the US that his fans have selective reasoning. I've lost count of the number of people over here who I've talked to who have said his dad was really poor. I've yet to meet a poor person who run theirs own IT consultancy business...
1) if you look at the charity stuff he does it tends to be in Africa/ india/ caribean countries.....so unless youre there in your tux with other f1 drivers I guess you wont meet himHe doesn't do anything that the majority of other celebrities and sports stars do but the others don't go around pretending they've come from some terribly deprived background.
It's not just in the US that his fans have selective reasoning. I've lost count of the number of people over here who I've talked to who have said his dad was really poor. I've yet to meet a poor person who run theirs own IT consultancy business...
Edited by Kraken on Tuesday 18th December 10:21
2) I beg to differ, many stars including DiCaprio have talked about their deprived childhood...
3) his dad was poor, held 4 jobs to fund racing
again, you seem to be blinkered, not wanting to look or do research. just because you don't see something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist
so tell me again why you think he leaves much to be desired as a human being. He works with multiple charities, is a team player, is constantly complimenting the employees that make what he does possible...what is it that makes him such a terrible human?
Edited by 37chevy on Tuesday 18th December 10:55
I think sometimes it’s down to the company he keeps. For example, Lance Stroll shows a picture of the house he grew up in (most probably the size of Stevenage) and Lewis would compare his much more humble upbringing. Stevenage is not a slum but comparing it to chez Stroll one could use the word slum?
I know Jackie Stewart used to get a lot of flak for his long hair and corduroy caps etc. People used to ask who this backwoods boy from Scotland thought he was, dressing like a film star etc. 'Course when Stewart started his safety campaign the criticism went mental.
Moss used to get some stick for not dressing the same as Mike Hawthorn. I think the Hawthorn style is the only accepted dress for a British racing driver. Hunt got all the flack too for not being a replica. Mansell was a lost cause given where he came from.
Moss used to get some stick for not dressing the same as Mike Hawthorn. I think the Hawthorn style is the only accepted dress for a British racing driver. Hunt got all the flack too for not being a replica. Mansell was a lost cause given where he came from.
Let's be honest, referring to Stevenage as 'the slums' was a mistake on many levels and for me shows a surprising lack of perspective given Hamilton's previous virtue signalling, most recently his comments about 'poor' India. Somebody who has seen as much of the world as Lewis should be able to recognise that if you live in the UK, have a roof over your head and food to eat, you are probably in the top 10% worldwide in terms of wealth.
At the very best it's a poor choice of words.
Hamilton loves this underdog 'started at the bottom now we're here' rhetoric but he does somewhat force it.
At the very best it's a poor choice of words.
Hamilton loves this underdog 'started at the bottom now we're here' rhetoric but he does somewhat force it.
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