Lewis Hamilton
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vdn said:
mattikake said:
The point is; there's no chance of racing with flu or even getting in a car. It was certainly man-flu aka a cold, and a completely different virus with a completely different imunal response, if there even was one at all.
I don’t know if it was a cold or flu... it doesn’t bother me either way. I do know that I’ve officially had the flu and been able to operate with some level of normality, if massively fatigued.mattikake said:
But if he and others knew he had "the flu" that he did have symptoms, his body was in emergency shut-down as it was desperately trying to find an antibody.
I assume you're a doctor or medical researcher to come out with these statements as if they're fact? Because they certainly don't match my personal experience or understanding. Anyway this is getting rather off topic. I'm quite happy to believe he had the influenza virus, you are not. Lets leave it at that.
Gary29 said:
PH is really hard work.
The subject of this thread has one of the drives of his career and we have long arguments about what 'Flu' is.
Very impressive from Lewis yesterday, and I'm more impressed by Max every time I watch him, he's matured massively.
This - I just popped in to see what had been said following Hungary (great drives by both Lewis and Max) to discover people are still banging on about the race before and the correct medical definition of influenza. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic ...The subject of this thread has one of the drives of his career and we have long arguments about what 'Flu' is.
Very impressive from Lewis yesterday, and I'm more impressed by Max every time I watch him, he's matured massively.
re: Hungary
Remember back in 2009/10 when they banned re-fuelling & folk said Hamilton would struggle with the new regs, as he was one dimensional & only knew one way to race- flat out quali mode, all the time
Seems they were wrong
& 10 years later, it doesn't seem like he's forgotten how to do it either
...i bet that hasn't gone unnoticed by Jean Todt
Remember back in 2009/10 when they banned re-fuelling & folk said Hamilton would struggle with the new regs, as he was one dimensional & only knew one way to race- flat out quali mode, all the time
Seems they were wrong
& 10 years later, it doesn't seem like he's forgotten how to do it either
...i bet that hasn't gone unnoticed by Jean Todt
Everyone loves a tortoise and hare race. Thought driver of the day was perhaps prematurely given to Verstappen, to be fair.
What is it now, 10 wins from the win record? Who's to bet against it coming before the end of 2020 (and perhaps by then equalling the 7 championships, too).
Well done to him.
What is it now, 10 wins from the win record? Who's to bet against it coming before the end of 2020 (and perhaps by then equalling the 7 championships, too).
Well done to him.
I desperately want to still see Lewis around to drive one of the ground effect cars in 2021 and beyond and also see him overtake MS in the all time standings, trouble is Lewis hasn't got age on his side, the older you get the harder it becomes to train, keep the weight off and I guess to an extent find the motivation to carry on doing all that, obviously he will have to retire eventually and leave it to the young un's and I suspect he already has that in mind, try for 8 WC's and walk away.
He'll have that much money and time on his hands he won't want to do WEC, probably not even Indy car, I don't know what he'll do when he retires but from a personal POV and from experience I'd like to think he'd put something back into grass roots motorsport i.e. karting - its where it all started for him and its been well documented the struggles Dad n Lad have when trying to make their way in karting
He'll have that much money and time on his hands he won't want to do WEC, probably not even Indy car, I don't know what he'll do when he retires but from a personal POV and from experience I'd like to think he'd put something back into grass roots motorsport i.e. karting - its where it all started for him and its been well documented the struggles Dad n Lad have when trying to make their way in karting
So who was it on here that said Max would crush Lewis, 'cos I think Nico saw that. 
https://youtu.be/z3at9ZOLg_s
https://youtu.be/z3at9ZOLg_s
ntiz said:
Sport is incredibly international now. Essentially a driver is just representing the country he has the most affinity for rather than has supported him to success.
I did start wondering about what defines which country you represent. Was watching the athletics from Monaco a few weeks back and the commentators were talking about one guy who competes for country X and said he used to represent country Y. So it seems you can change if you feel like it.Gary29 said:
PH is really hard work.
The subject of this thread has one of the drives of his career and we have long arguments about what 'Flu' is.
Very impressive from Lewis yesterday, and I'm more impressed by Max every time I watch him, he's matured massively.
Indeed impressive from the both of them.The subject of this thread has one of the drives of his career and we have long arguments about what 'Flu' is.
Very impressive from Lewis yesterday, and I'm more impressed by Max every time I watch him, he's matured massively.
It what always the driving itself that was and is impressive about Max, that he has matured obviously adds to him as a driver.
The "maturity" argument is an odd and frankly absurd one. Used and abused. It's weird to expect a 17 year old boy coming into F1, in a second rate car, having to fight your way into a new racing class to be a finished product.
Leclerc has it's problems this season with keeping his car on track, so did Ham early into his career.
Given how fellow drivers and multiple WDC winners like Vettel and Ham approach him on track speaks volumes. Hams off yesterday and his radio calls were tellling:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1158092991954903040
DeltonaS said:
Given how fellow drivers and multiple WDC winners like Vettel and Ham approach him on track speaks volumes. Hams off yesterday and his radio calls were tellling:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1158092991954903040
I like Max going forward, and always remember his first Monaco as really stand out, but think he's relatively poor at defending- namely likely to cause an accident rather than risk letting you past.https://twitter.com/i/status/1158092991954903040
I think this benefits him right now as Rosberg in his last race or Hamilton in any since will give him a ton of room rather than risk their points haul, but were he in a title fight I think it would work against him and he'd need to change- at best he might end up in an Alonso/Hamesque/Rosberg situation where they need to lay down authority on each other.
glazbagun said:
I like Max going forward, and always remember his first Monaco as really stand out, but think he's relatively poor at defending- namely likely to cause an accident rather than risk letting you past.
I think this benefits him right now as Rosberg in his last race or Hamilton in any since will give him a ton of room rather than risk their points haul, but were he in a title fight I think it would work against him and he'd need to change- at best he might end up in an Alonso/Hamesque/Rosberg situation where they need to lay down authority on each other.
I think that was true until this year, Max has gone from a very talented but over aggressive driver prone to mistakes,to almost the full package. I haven't seen anything other than great driving from him this year and he is now firmly in the #2 best on grid for me.I think this benefits him right now as Rosberg in his last race or Hamilton in any since will give him a ton of room rather than risk their points haul, but were he in a title fight I think it would work against him and he'd need to change- at best he might end up in an Alonso/Hamesque/Rosberg situation where they need to lay down authority on each other.
Hamilton had a similar mistake prone period in the later McLaren years before emerging on the other side as one of the GOATs. Expect Max will now be the same.
Doink said:
I desperately want to still see Lewis around to drive one of the ground effect cars in 2021 and beyond and also see him overtake MS in the all time standings, trouble is Lewis hasn't got age on his side, the older you get the harder it becomes to train, keep the weight off and I guess to an extent find the motivation to carry on doing all that, obviously he will have to retire eventually and leave it to the young un's and I suspect he already has that in mind, try for 8 WC's and walk away.
He'll have that much money and time on his hands he won't want to do WEC, probably not even Indy car, I don't know what he'll do when he retires but from a personal POV and from experience I'd like to think he'd put something back into grass roots motorsport i.e. karting - its where it all started for him and its been well documented the struggles Dad n Lad have when trying to make their way in karting
I suspect he will try and race as long as possible to try and stop Max getting all the stat records. He enjoys his racing still, and the longer he goes the less likely Max is to be winning championships/ races. Therefore he makes it less likely Max will beat him in say 10 years time on WDCs etc. Lewis still hadn't driven a F1 car by the age Max is now... And Max will be the clear No. 1 driver for teams to chase and so can chose the best cars for his career.He'll have that much money and time on his hands he won't want to do WEC, probably not even Indy car, I don't know what he'll do when he retires but from a personal POV and from experience I'd like to think he'd put something back into grass roots motorsport i.e. karting - its where it all started for him and its been well documented the struggles Dad n Lad have when trying to make their way in karting
Wills2 said:
I cannot see the FIA allowing a driver to race if not fit to race, so clearly he was fit to race even if he wasn't on top form.
Really? The same FIA who didn't punish Vettel much when he deliberately drove into Hamilton, to try and keep the Championship alive? And many other things which show they prioritize viewing figures a lot of the time.I think Hamilton will be happy to equal Schumacher - something many of us thought would never happen again (given how much has to go right for so long).
He may stay on to try to surpass it but that will take us into new regs and much uncertainty.
The future probably belongs to Verstappen but I don’t think Hamilton is thinking about him. Hamilton will be long gone by the time Verstappen gets close to any records.
He may stay on to try to surpass it but that will take us into new regs and much uncertainty.
The future probably belongs to Verstappen but I don’t think Hamilton is thinking about him. Hamilton will be long gone by the time Verstappen gets close to any records.
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