Lewis Hamilton
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E34-3.2 said:
VladD said:
Anyone else think it's interesting that the Ferrari got faster over the summer break?
Interesting yes, hard work I guess but a few people in the paddock are suspicious. A bit like when in 2017 or 18 when Ferrari were doing something different. Toto mentioned in SPA that he has full confidence in the FIA inspectors to be impartial with their work... Hmmmm. VladD said:
It's the "hard work" that's the problem. Nobody was supposed to be working.
I'm sure it was just a totally legitimate coincidence.I suppose really it's funny that we have a summer break, one that's not halfway through the season, but that does oddly match the semi-official 'holiday season' in Italy around Ferragosto where much of the Ferrari team would have probably been on holiday anyway...
I mean a cynic could argue this would put Ferrari at a disadvantage to those teams not based in Italy unless they were also made to shut up shop
Anyway sorry, off topic
VladD said:
It's the "hard work" that's the problem. Nobody was supposed to be working.
The engine and fuels / lubes teams can continue working - and this is where Ferrari have often made big in-season gains.Did anyone question it in 2017 where Mercedes came back from the summer break and, after being behind for the first half of the season, blew everyone away after the break?
Poppiecock said:
The engine and fuels / lubes teams can continue working - and this is where Ferrari have often made big in-season gains.
Did anyone question it in 2017 where Mercedes came back from the summer break and, after being behind for the first half of the season, blew everyone away after the break?
Actually, Mercedes didn't blow away anyone performance wise, others (especially Ferrari) completely fell apart. Did anyone question it in 2017 where Mercedes came back from the summer break and, after being behind for the first half of the season, blew everyone away after the break?
E34-3.2 said:
Poppiecock said:
The engine and fuels / lubes teams can continue working - and this is where Ferrari have often made big in-season gains.
Did anyone question it in 2017 where Mercedes came back from the summer break and, after being behind for the first half of the season, blew everyone away after the break?
Actually, Mercedes didn't blow away anyone performance wise, others (especially Ferrari) completely fell apart. Did anyone question it in 2017 where Mercedes came back from the summer break and, after being behind for the first half of the season, blew everyone away after the break?
KevinCamaroSS said:
kiseca said:
Nico won because he got better results that year. If Bottas outdrives Lewis enough times in a season, the championship is his for the taking. Anything else is a conspiracy theory and deserves about as much consideration as one.
Err, no he did not. He won because Hamilton's car had woeful reliability.Hamilton won more races than Rosberg that year.
mat205125 said:
...... and the opposite was true the year before, with Rosberg getting less luck, and Hamilton lifting the crown
Hamilton was plainly better than Rosberg, but I do think Nico was one hell of a driver. He was often right up there with Lewis in quali and faster more than Lewis would have liked. I do wonder though whether there was an element of Lewis setting his car up for the race as so often he have Nico a bit of a racing lesson on Sundays.paulguitar said:
mat205125 said:
...... and the opposite was true the year before, with Rosberg getting less luck, and Hamilton lifting the crown
Hamilton was plainly better than Rosberg, but I do think Nico was one hell of a driver. He was often right up there with Lewis in quali and faster more than Lewis would have liked. I do wonder though whether there was an element of Lewis setting his car up for the race as so often he have Nico a bit of a racing lesson on Sundays.It's what I thought of when he seemed so relaxed post-race about what LeClerc did at Monza.
kiseca said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
kiseca said:
Nico won because he got better results that year. If Bottas outdrives Lewis enough times in a season, the championship is his for the taking. Anything else is a conspiracy theory and deserves about as much consideration as one.
Err, no he did not. He won because Hamilton's car had woeful reliability.Hamilton won more races than Rosberg that year.
The results for every year in history have been a result of car reliability and performance as well as driver and team reliability and performance. 2016 was no different.
HustleRussell said:
E34-3.2 said:
Europa1 said:
E34-3.2 said:
Toto mentioned in SPA that
There's no need to shout.If you look at the official title or logo I think that it is actually written: SPA-Francorchamps and most of races are called 24h de SPA or 6h de SPA and so on.
Official website: http://www.spa-francorchamps.be/
Edited by E34-3.2 on Thursday 26th September 22:46
Edited by E34-3.2 on Friday 27th September 08:56
Every mention of 'Spa' where it's not in a fully capitalised sentence is written 'Spa' on their own site.
The ONLY place I see it as SPA is when F1 use the shortened form as they do for drivers, ie. HAM, VET, RIC etc.
Mind you, how many anorak wearers also use those forms when discussing drivers, too?
The ONLY place I see it as SPA is when F1 use the shortened form as they do for drivers, ie. HAM, VET, RIC etc.
Mind you, how many anorak wearers also use those forms when discussing drivers, too?
Bo_apex said:
Lewis is very upbeat when the Mercedes is top dog. Gets very jittery and full of superlatives when another car is within range.
Aside from Bottas ofcourse
All he’s said is it’s going to be very difficult for Merc to win any of the remaining 6 races. Just saying it as he sees it, hardly jittery imo.Aside from Bottas ofcourse
KevinCamaroSS said:
kiseca said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
kiseca said:
Nico won because he got better results that year. If Bottas outdrives Lewis enough times in a season, the championship is his for the taking. Anything else is a conspiracy theory and deserves about as much consideration as one.
Err, no he did not. He won because Hamilton's car had woeful reliability.Hamilton won more races than Rosberg that year.
The results for every year in history have been a result of car reliability and performance as well as driver and team reliability and performance. 2016 was no different.
Every single season would look different if you ignored all the retirements. Even the seasons where the best 11 results counted, were still affected by retirements. The driver who has the most points at the end wins. In 2016, that was Rosberg.
There are no prizes for best results for finished races only. No championship award for the driver with the most wins in a season. Championships are decided on points, and to have a chance of getting points, you have to finish the race.
Edited by kiseca on Friday 27th September 10:46
kiseca said:
Retiring is also a result. It's a team sport. Whether the driver stuffs it or the car does, the result is the same. Rosberg didn't sit on his ass at home drinking beer while Hamilton's car tripped up and threw the championship into Rosberg's lap. He was out there, with his car, winning races, finishing others, getting more points than anyone else did.
Every single season would look different if you ignored all the retirements. Even the seasons where the best 11 results counted, were still affected by retirements. The driver who has the most points at the end wins. In 2016, that was Rosberg.
There are no prizes for best results for finished races only. No championship award for the driver with the most wins in a season. Championships are decided on points, and to have a chance of getting points, you have to finish the race.
Not sure if I remember rightly but isn't it Prost the only driver to not be world champion in 88 or 89 despite having more points than Senna? Every single season would look different if you ignored all the retirements. Even the seasons where the best 11 results counted, were still affected by retirements. The driver who has the most points at the end wins. In 2016, that was Rosberg.
There are no prizes for best results for finished races only. No championship award for the driver with the most wins in a season. Championships are decided on points, and to have a chance of getting points, you have to finish the race.
Edited by kiseca on Friday 27th September 10:46
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