Lewis Hamilton

[DS240]

37chevy said:

ntiz said:

Then he jumps on flights to 3-4 different locations between races. Okay not a private jet anymore but planes are still pretty bad.

Look at the stats. In CO2 emissions per year

A transatlantic flight 1.6t
Owning a vehicle 2.4t
Having a child 58.6t

Cows produce more C02 than any other sector at 18% of global C02 emissions...that’s more than planes, cars and other forms of transport put together.

I’d say Lewis is doing his part by going vegan and not having kids....his carbon footprint from not having a child massively outweighs the plane trips alone

I’ve love to know how this stat is actually achieved.

I thought I had read one transatlantic flight is the equivalent to your lifetime use of a car in terms of CO2.

And how does having a baby produce this immense volume of CO2? I can’t quite work how this is achieved.

[C70R]

Exige77 said:

37chevy said:

ntiz said:

Then he jumps on flights to 3-4 different locations between races. Okay not a private jet anymore but planes are still pretty bad.

Look at the stats. In CO2 emissions per year

A transatlantic flight 1.6t
Owning a vehicle 2.4t
Having a child 58.6t

Cows produce more C02 than any other sector at 18% of global C02 emissions...that’s more than planes, cars and other forms of transport put together.

I’d say Lewis is doing his part by going vegan and not having kids....his carbon footprint from not having a child massively outweighs the plane trips alone

At least vehicles have some benefit, they move people and goods to enable trade which generates some revenue which can in turn fund good things.

Eating meat also has some value as part of a balanced diet.

But, Lewis’s other passion “fashion” has no real upside. One of the worlds greatest polluters with no real value other than to those who own the brands. As fashion is getting faster and faster, new garments are worn less and less and flown more and more.

How does Lewis square that circle ?

I’m one of Lewis’s greatest supporters BTW.

I agree there's a massive problem with fast fashion and its impact on the environment.

I'm not sure, even with the most tenuous leaps, you could claim that Lewis's association with a high fashion brand is directly responsible for that.

[DS240]

isaldiri said:

37chevy said:

keep up, that was sold a year ago when he decided to take a more eco friendly approach to flying.

Hamilton might have sold his private jet but I think it's rather unlikely he's gone back to slumming it on first class rather than simply chartering another private jet when needed.....

They are much greener when chartered.. the company plants a tree to offset your flight!

[HighwayStar]

isaldiri said:

37chevy said:

proof please?

You are the one claiming he's 'taken a more eco friendly approach to flying'.....

I'll help you out
It has the usual Sun sensationalist headline and content but the point is.... he's there queuing with the plebs.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/motorsport/9474706/...

[Exige77]

C70R said:

Exige77 said:

37chevy said:

ntiz said:

Then he jumps on flights to 3-4 different locations between races. Okay not a private jet anymore but planes are still pretty bad.

Look at the stats. In CO2 emissions per year

A transatlantic flight 1.6t
Owning a vehicle 2.4t
Having a child 58.6t

Cows produce more C02 than any other sector at 18% of global C02 emissions...that’s more than planes, cars and other forms of transport put together.

I’d say Lewis is doing his part by going vegan and not having kids....his carbon footprint from not having a child massively outweighs the plane trips alone

At least vehicles have some benefit, they move people and goods to enable trade which generates some revenue which can in turn fund good things.

Eating meat also has some value as part of a balanced diet.

But, Lewis’s other passion “fashion” has no real upside. One of the worlds greatest polluters with no real value other than to those who own the brands. As fashion is getting faster and faster, new garments are worn less and less and flown more and more.

How does Lewis square that circle ?

I’m one of Lewis’s greatest supporters BTW.

I agree there's a massive problem with fast fashion and its impact on the environment.

I'm not sure, even with the most tenuous leaps, you could claim that Lewis's association with a high fashion brand is directly responsible for that.

The whole point of fast fashion is it copies the premium brands, the catwalks and what celebrities wear / promote, very quickly.

The whole process starts with the premiums and their celebrity promoters.

[Durzel]

37chevy said:

Look at the stats. In CO2 emissions per year

A transatlantic flight 1.6t
Owning a vehicle 2.4t
Having a child 58.6t

Cows produce more C02 than any other sector at 18% of global C02 emissions...that’s more than planes, cars and other forms of transport put together.

I’d say Lewis is doing his part by going vegan and not having kids....his carbon footprint from not having a child massively outweighs the plane trips alone

There might be another problem if everyone chose not to have kids though. I can't put my finger on it but I get the sense it would have its own consequences.

[Exige77]

Durzel said:

37chevy said:

Look at the stats. In CO2 emissions per year

A transatlantic flight 1.6t
Owning a vehicle 2.4t
Having a child 58.6t

Cows produce more C02 than any other sector at 18% of global C02 emissions...that’s more than planes, cars and other forms of transport put together.

I’d say Lewis is doing his part by going vegan and not having kids....his carbon footprint from not having a child massively outweighs the plane trips alone

There might be another problem if everyone chose not to have kids though. I can't put my finger on it but I get the sense it would have its own consequences.

The main issue is third world countries ever growing population, industrialisation and increased consumption of meat products and other stuff.

The first world however are in no position to say “we’re alright but you can’t have any of this stuff as it’s bad for the planet”

It’s very much a global problem with no easy solution.

Too many people consuming too much and creating too much waste.

[37chevy]

Exige77 said:

Durzel said:

37chevy said:

Look at the stats. In CO2 emissions per year

A transatlantic flight 1.6t
Owning a vehicle 2.4t
Having a child 58.6t

Cows produce more C02 than any other sector at 18% of global C02 emissions...that’s more than planes, cars and other forms of transport put together.

I’d say Lewis is doing his part by going vegan and not having kids....his carbon footprint from not having a child massively outweighs the plane trips alone

There might be another problem if everyone chose not to have kids though. I can't put my finger on it but I get the sense it would have its own consequences.

The main issue is third world countries ever growing population, industrialisation and increased consumption of meat products and other stuff.

The first world however are in no position to say “we’re alright but you can’t have any of this stuff as it’s bad for the planet”

It’s very much a global problem with no easy solution.

Too many people consuming too much and creating too much waste.

Durzel

im not claiming everyone should stop having kids....that's a daft idea.

People could be more socially responsible though. we are constantly talking about overpopulation in this country and around the world...have one less kid, or better still, adopt the poor kids who are in care in the UK and hit 2 birds with 1 stone

Exige is spot on

[aeropilot]

eccles said:

We'll have to start calling him Greta Hamilton soon

Perhaps he fancies the little Swedish witch and this is his way of getting into her knickers............


Joking aside, he really does seem to be demonstrating an ever increasingly fragile mental behavior, and keen to display it to all via social media.

I'd be sensing mental weakness to exploit if I was a fellow competitor, however, what ever demons are in his head off-track, and there seems to be many now, he seems perfectly capable of putting them aside once ontrack....as he's just about to win a 6th WDC!!
The question is will he continue next year to try an equal MS's record of 7?

I've never warmed to the guy from day one of his F1 career as a person, but don't doubt his place as one of the all time great F1 drivers.

I wonder if he's sold his two 427 Cobra's as well as selling his private jet?

[37chevy]

aeropilot said:

I wonder if he's sold his two 427 Cobra's as well as selling his private jet?

why would he need to?

given the amount they are used, I suspect they produce less C02 than your daily driver or the hot air produced on this forum ;-p

[ukaskew]

I follow most of the drivers on Instagram etc and it's surprising how most of them take commercial schedules flights most of the time. Every one I've seen flew commercial to Tokyo then hopped on the bullet train, for example.

A bunch of drivers seem to pool resources and jump on private jets for some races, but typically they aren't all hopping around the world alone on a jet (rented, owned or otherwise).

Lewis shared a taxi with Bottas back to Tokyo after the GP.

[aeropilot]

37chevy said:

aeropilot said:

I wonder if he's sold his two 427 Cobra's as well as selling his private jet?

why would he need to?

given the amount they are used, I suspect they produce less C02 than your daily driver or the hot air produced on this forum ;-p

He didn't 'need' to sell the private jet either, but he seems to want to make a statement, so I assume, he's making other similar statements to up his green credentials..............?

[Steamer]

ukaskew said:

Lewis shared a taxi with Bottas back to Tokyo after the GP.

Maybe thats what pushed him over the edge - Bottas made him hold his trophy in the cab

[oyster]

37chevy said:

ntiz said:

Then he jumps on flights to 3-4 different locations between races. Okay not a private jet anymore but planes are still pretty bad.

Look at the stats. In CO2 emissions per year

A transatlantic flight 1.6t
Owning a vehicle 2.4t
Having a child 58.6t

Cows produce more C02 than any other sector at 18% of global C02 emissions...that’s more than planes, cars and other forms of transport put together.

I’d say Lewis is doing his part by going vegan and not having kids....his carbon footprint from not having a child massively outweighs the plane trips alone

What is the source of your stats?

[fluffekins]

aeropilot said:

37chevy said:

aeropilot said:

I wonder if he's sold his two 427 Cobra's as well as selling his private jet?

why would he need to?

given the amount they are used, I suspect they produce less C02 than your daily driver or the hot air produced on this forum ;-p

He didn't 'need' to sell the private jet either, but he seems to want to make a statement, so I assume, he's making other similar statements to up his green credentials..............?

I believe he sold his private jet to one of the Lauda companies and leases it back (as is quite common with this type of asset).

Not particularly green, I suspect neither is his yacht.

[budgie smuggler]

37chevy said:

ntiz said:

Then he jumps on flights to 3-4 different locations between races. Okay not a private jet anymore but planes are still pretty bad.

Look at the stats. In CO2 emissions per year

A transatlantic flight 1.6t
Owning a vehicle 2.4t
Having a child 58.6t

Cows produce more C02 than any other sector at 18% of global C02 emissions...that’s more than planes, cars and other forms of transport put together.

I’d say Lewis is doing his part by going vegan and not having kids....his carbon footprint from not having a child massively outweighs the plane trips alone

You sure on those numbers mate?

A single return journey from LA to Heathrow first class (not private jet) is showing on the calculator I found as:

"10.48 tonnes: First class direct return flight from CCD to LHR"

Then he probably does that 20 times at least from F1 alone without other commitments?

[37chevy]

oyster said:

What is the source of your stats?

amongst other things

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-93...

having spent 20 years working as a civil and environmental engineer I have a half decent knowledge on relative impacts of C02 and global warming from different sectors

[37chevy]

budgie smuggler said:

You sure on those numbers mate?

A single return journey from LA to Heathrow first class (not private jet) is showing on the calculator I found as:

"10.48 tonnes: First class direct return flight from CCD to LHR"

Then he probably does that 20 times at least from F1 alone without other commitments?

knock yourself out...

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-93...

of course tonnage depends on plane, distance and number of occupants amongst other things

CO2 emissions from aviation fuel are 3.15 grams per gram of fuel [38] , which gives CO2 emissions from a Boeing 737-400 of 115 g per passenger km.

At a cruising speed of 780 km per hour this is equivalent to 90 kg CO2 per hour.

The corresponding figures (same sources) for a Boeing 747-400 (used for long distance international flights) are:
Distance: 5556 km
Fuel used: 59.6 tonnes
Seats: 416
Seat occupancy: 80%
Average number of passengers: 333
Fuel use per passenger km: 59.6 tonnes / (5556km x 333) = 32.2 g per passenger km
CO2 emissions: 101 g per passenger km (multiplying by 3.15 g CO2 per g fuel)
Cruising speed: 910 km per hour
CO2 emissions: 92 kg CO2 per hour

so on a 10 hour flight, its approx. 1t

Edited by 37chevy on Wednesday 16th October 12:44

[Graveworm]

fluffekins said:

I believe he sold his private jet to one of the Lauda companies and leases it back (as is quite common with this type of asset).

Nope

[E34-3.2]

fluffekins said:

I believe he sold his private jet to one of the Lauda companies and leases it back (as is quite common with this type of asset).

Not particularly green, I suspect neither is his yacht.

What yacht??