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BigBen

11,645 posts

230 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Graveworm said:
BigBen said:
Can you show your working for this one?
What working? Most power stations are oil or coal which have a best thermal efficiency of 37 percent. The most efficient ICE (Without taking any kind of hybrid energy recovery into account) exceed 50 percent.
OK as I thought.

RemarkLima

2,375 posts

212 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Teddy Lop said:
and that is the unavoidable core of most of those who preach the environmentalism tenet isn't it - "the masses should go with less again while the few enjoy all the spoils"
Seems an extreme response to not trying to crap all over each other... The other extreme is that everyone just does whatever they want, and don't give a s**t about it.

I'm fairly certain that the truth lies somewhere between the two ;-)

anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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Is Hamilton's radio moaning, "we'll never make it!", genuine?

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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There’s a live feed from National Grid available showing demand and where electricity is coming from.

Screen shot below



Edited by Exige77 on Tuesday 29th October 10:31

hammo19

5,004 posts

196 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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Well at least Lewis has got us debating the issue.....that’s got to be a good thing hasn’t it? Even though there are other threads running on this.

vdn

8,911 posts

203 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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Indeed. Interesting to read some of what’s being posted, re’ energy / EV etc

swisstoni

17,016 posts

279 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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janesmith1950 said:
Is Hamilton's radio moaning, "we'll never make it!", genuine?
I don't suppose anyone outside the team really knows.
Personally I think there is some genuine moaning but a lot of misdirection to other teams as well when it is needed.






Deesee

8,426 posts

83 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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swisstoni said:
I don't suppose anyone outside the team really knows.
Personally I think there is some genuine moaning but a lot of misdirection to other teams as well when it is needed.


It’s this

https://images.app.goo.gl/kwXAAjTTEaKgVAgU9

hehe

StevieBee

12,905 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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swisstoni said:
janesmith1950 said:
Is Hamilton's radio moaning, "we'll never make it!", genuine?
I don't suppose anyone outside the team really knows.
Personally I think there is some genuine moaning but a lot of misdirection to other teams as well when it is needed.
I think there's a lot of misdirection going on.

Stirling Moss used to walk up the grid just before a wet race rubbing his hands with glee and telling anyone who cared to listen just how much he loved racing in the wet and that it really brought out the best in him. In reality, he hated it and has later admitted to be petrified when racing in the rain but the approach disarmed his opponents.

Halmyre

11,204 posts

139 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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Might also have been Moss who, if he thought someone was catching him in the wet, would start hanging the tail out and opposite-locking, in the hope that his pursuer might think "blimey, it must be bad" and back off a bit.

IforB

9,840 posts

229 months

Wednesday 30th October 2019
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A lot of talk about something completely unrelated to racing, but interesting to see that Hamilton has kicked off a discussion with just a tweet.

As for Hamilton himself, another phenomenal drive from him in Mexico. He really is the best out there by a country mile at the moment.

Connectors

226 posts

89 months

Wednesday 30th October 2019
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swisstoni said:
a lot of misdirection to other teams as well when it is needed.
I really don’t believe that the other teams think it’s true anymore than I do.

PTF

4,328 posts

224 months

Wednesday 30th October 2019
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The best National Grid page is here: https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

Gad-Westy

14,570 posts

213 months

Wednesday 30th October 2019
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swisstoni said:
janesmith1950 said:
Is Hamilton's radio moaning, "we'll never make it!", genuine?
I don't suppose anyone outside the team really knows.
Personally I think there is some genuine moaning but a lot of misdirection to other teams as well when it is needed.
I always wonder this when a team tells the driver they're going to Plan B. I often speculate that "Plan B" is actually Plan A or maybe even plan C, but definitely not actually Plan B.

vdn

8,911 posts

203 months

Wednesday 30th October 2019
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I'm sure I heard Brundle say, yonks ago, that there's a button in the cockpit; that basically tells the pit crew that what's being said is actually bks and purely intended to mislead. Happens a lot if I recall.


RemarkLima

2,375 posts

212 months

Wednesday 30th October 2019
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Graveworm said:
BigBen said:
Can you show your working for this one?
What working? Most power stations are oil or coal which have a best thermal efficiency of 37 percent. The most efficient ICE (Without taking any kind of hybrid energy recovery into account) exceed 50 percent.
Isn't most power from nuclear (very efficient) and CCGT which is 60% and greater efficiency?

And I've only ever heard of an ICE getting 50% as a top end F1 engine under lab conditions... A diesel is 35% on a good run (and not under idle, or chugging around)... Unless you're running a low speed ship diesel engine?

I'd appreciate a link to the info showing ICE at 50% efficiency during standard usage - bearing in mind that you can run a power station at peak efficiency all the time, but you can't do that with an ICE. It's a genuine request as Wikipedia cites only 20 to 25% efficiency https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_efficiency?...

Graveworm

8,496 posts

71 months

Wednesday 30th October 2019
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RemarkLima said:
Isn't most power from nuclear (very efficient) and CCGT which is 60% and greater efficiency?

And I've only ever heard of an ICE getting 50% as a top end F1 engine under lab conditions... A diesel is 35% on a good run (and not under idle, or chugging around)... Unless you're running a low speed ship diesel engine?

I'd appreciate a link to the info showing ICE at 50% efficiency during standard usage - bearing in mind that you can run a power station at peak efficiency all the time, but you can't do that with an ICE. It's a genuine request as Wikipedia cites only 20 to 25% efficiency https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_efficiency?...
Most power worldwide is comfortably from fossil fuels.
Links
www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/amp15...


blackmme

297 posts

83 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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So if Lewis were to secure his sixth championship this year (as does seem rather likely) could we expect him to be honoured with a Knighthood?
An award which would seem to me to be rather overdue already given the extent of his sporting achievements compared to some recently bestowed with the award.
I have read and heard speculation before that there may be a former World Champion with some friends amongst the Royal Family who isn’t terribly keen on the idea at all.

I do hope that isn’t the case and come 2020 it is Sir Lewis having a tilt at matching Michael Schumacher’s record.

Regards Mike

cuprabob

14,651 posts

214 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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Personally, I don't think anyone should be awarded a knighthood until they have retired from their chosen sport.

MarkwG

4,849 posts

189 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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Personally I don't think a knighthood is particularly relevant here anyway: there are 7 motor sport knights, only two were world champions. I'd prefer awards to be about public service, rather than personal reward for achievement, if we have to have them. Particularly in motor sport, it's a team result as much as an individual one.
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