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HTP99

22,602 posts

141 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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blackmme said:
So if Lewis were to secure his sixth championship this year (as does seem rather likely) could we expect him to be honoured with a Knighthood?
An award which would seem to me to be rather overdue already given the extent of his sporting achievements compared to some recently bestowed with the award.
I have read and heard speculation before that there may be a former World Champion with some friends amongst the Royal Family who isn’t terribly keen on the idea at all.

I do hope that isn’t the case and come 2020 it is Sir Lewis having a tilt at matching Michael Schumacher’s record.

Regards Mike
Wonder who that could possibly be; wouldn't surprise me in the least!

Exige77

6,518 posts

192 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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cuprabob said:
Personally, I don't think anyone should be awarded a knighthood until they have retired from their chosen sport.
I think Lewis has achieved enough to be knighted but only when he’s retired from racing as Cuprabob.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

68 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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MarkwG said:
Personally I don't think a knighthood is particularly relevant here anyway: there are 7 motor sport knights, only two were world champions. I'd prefer awards to be about public service, rather than personal reward for achievement, if we have to have them. Particularly in motor sport, it's a team result as much as an individual one.
maybe that's why he's gone all eco woke-nesslaugh

Seriously though it's a good point, like the nobel it seems there's a desire today to be in with the popular kids, a sort of pandering to be relevant.

Wills2

22,908 posts

176 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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IforB said:

As for Hamilton himself, another phenomenal drive from him in Mexico. He really is the best out there by a country mile at the moment.
Yep, he's the class of the field once again a truly remarkable talent that's been honed to perfection.



swisstoni

17,053 posts

280 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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I agree that all knighthoods should wait until careers are over and can be assessed along with a lot of other factors.

But his achievements are already into the Sir zone and if he ever gets to 7 it will be weird if he wasn’t offered the honour.

But who knows what his attitude is to establishment gongs anyway - he may not want it.

HTP99

22,602 posts

141 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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swisstoni said:
I agree that all knighthoods should wait until careers are over and can be assessed along with a lot of other factors.

But his achievements are already into the Sir zone and if he ever gets to 7 it will be weird if he wasn’t offered the honour.

But who knows what his attitude is to establishment gongs anyway - he may not want it.
He already has an OBE.

glazbagun

14,283 posts

198 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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swisstoni said:
I agree that all knighthoods should wait until careers are over and can be assessed along with a lot of other factors.

But his achievements are already into the Sir zone and if he ever gets to 7 it will be weird if he wasn’t offered the honour.

But who knows what his attitude is to establishment gongs anyway - he may not want it.
Is he the first WDC to not want the #1 on his car? I guess choosing your own number is a new thing but I can't tell if that's an anti-tradition streak or simple marketing nous.

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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swisstoni said:
I agree that all knighthoods should wait until careers are over and can be assessed along with a lot of other factors.

But his achievements are already into the Sir zone and if he ever gets to 7 it will be weird if he wasn’t offered the honour.

But who knows what his attitude is to establishment gongs anyway - he may not want it.
I wonder if it's a team sport thing. There are quite a few very successful footballers out there who don't get knighted until they retire, same as rugby etc.

Deesee

8,464 posts

84 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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glazbagun said:
Is he the first WDC to not want the #1 on his car? I guess choosing your own number is a new thing but I can't tell if that's an anti-tradition streak or simple marketing nous.
He ran the number 1 in Abu Dhabi last year, I’d expect him to to the same this year.

RemarkLima

2,379 posts

213 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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Graveworm said:
RemarkLima said:
Isn't most power from nuclear (very efficient) and CCGT which is 60% and greater efficiency?

And I've only ever heard of an ICE getting 50% as a top end F1 engine under lab conditions... A diesel is 35% on a good run (and not under idle, or chugging around)... Unless you're running a low speed ship diesel engine?

I'd appreciate a link to the info showing ICE at 50% efficiency during standard usage - bearing in mind that you can run a power station at peak efficiency all the time, but you can't do that with an ICE. It's a genuine request as Wikipedia cites only 20 to 25% efficiency https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_efficiency?...
Most power worldwide is comfortably from fossil fuels.
Links
www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/amp15...
That simply agrees with my sentiment that an internal combustion engine is never anywhere near the 50% previously cited. Also, given that the thermal efficiency is given at peak efficiency, and the times an ICE is running at peak is rare in most use cases, it still seems that electric is a better engineering choice.

That mazda statement reads more like the fact mazda is behind on the development of electric engines... However, that'd be great as a static generator!

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Saturday 2nd November 2019
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I had no idea Lewis was a source of green energy.

epom

11,559 posts

162 months

Sunday 3rd November 2019
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poing said:
I had no idea Lewis was a source of green energy.
Monster ?

CrouchingWayne

687 posts

177 months

Sunday 3rd November 2019
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blackmme said:
So if Lewis were to secure his sixth championship this year (as does seem rather likely) could we expect him to be honoured with a Knighthood?
An award which would seem to me to be rather overdue already given the extent of his sporting achievements compared to some recently bestowed with the award.
I have read and heard speculation before that there may be a former World Champion with some friends amongst the Royal Family who isn’t terribly keen on the idea at all.

I do hope that isn’t the case and come 2020 it is Sir Lewis having a tilt at matching Michael Schumacher’s record.

Regards Mike
I thought he was quite likely to get it the other year but then the media published details of his tax efficient method for running his private jet which caught him a lot of flack at the time.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Sunday 3rd November 2019
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Many will disagree, and that’s fine, but I can’t help feeling we may be starting to see the first hints of Hamilton’s inevitable decline. He’s obviously still a formidable driver, but he can’t stay at the top forever. Sooner or later his fresher rivals are going to start getting the better of him, and I sometimes wonder if that time isn’t as far away as we might like.

noell35

3,172 posts

149 months

Sunday 3rd November 2019
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Kenny Powers said:
Many will disagree, and that’s fine, but I can’t help feeling we may be starting to see the first hints of Hamilton’s inevitable decline. He’s obviously still a formidable driver, but he can’t stay at the top forever. Sooner or later his fresher rivals are going to start getting the better of him, and I sometimes wonder if that time isn’t as far away as we might like.
Where are you getting this feeling from? One bad qualifying result?

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Sunday 3rd November 2019
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noell35 said:
Where are you getting this feeling from? One bad qualifying result?
Just a general vibe. I can't really put a finger on it. Maybe it's even in the way he's conducting himself. To me there's just a sense of inevitability hanging over him now. I will admit that I've been on a bit of a Lewis downer since his vegan propaganda social media outburst, so that is probably colouring my judgement. I am a career fan, though, so I'm not biased in that regard.

I guess will see as time unfolds, but personally I think we are seeing the start of a slow decline. Just an opinion.

E34-3.2

1,003 posts

80 months

Sunday 3rd November 2019
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He has definitely lost a bit of that extreme speed he had over the others I think but he has the experience which will help. The drivers these days are much younger and faster than few years ago so it will show more of a contrast against the likes of Ham, Vettel and Raik maybe. They are very hotheaded these days.


Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

68 months

Sunday 3rd November 2019
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Kenny Powers said:
noell35 said:
Where are you getting this feeling from? One bad qualifying result?
Just a general vibe. I can't really put a finger on it. Maybe it's even in the way he's conducting himself. To me there's just a sense of inevitability hanging over him now. I will admit that I've been on a bit of a Lewis downer since his vegan propaganda social media outburst, so that is probably colouring my judgement. I am a career fan, though, so I'm not biased in that regard.

I guess will see as time unfolds, but personally I think we are seeing the start of a slow decline. Just an opinion.
not sure why people are talking him down.

In the last 6 races, the ones ferrari have got a clean sweep of pole positions and there's a backstory that they have a dodgy engine and quicker car, Lewis has still scored more points than anyone else including said faster ferraris.

sparta6

3,699 posts

101 months

Sunday 3rd November 2019
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Teddy Lop said:
not sure why people are talking him down.

In the last 6 races, the ones ferrari have got a clean sweep of pole positions and there's a backstory that they have a dodgy engine and quicker car, Lewis has still scored more points than anyone else including said faster ferraris.
He's certainly made ammends for Hockenheim.

He had a cold but that race was a shocker

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

68 months

Sunday 3rd November 2019
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sparta6 said:
Teddy Lop said:
not sure why people are talking him down.

In the last 6 races, the ones ferrari have got a clean sweep of pole positions and there's a backstory that they have a dodgy engine and quicker car, Lewis has still scored more points than anyone else including said faster ferraris.
He's certainly made ammends for Hockenheim.

He had a cold but that race was a shocker
I made it six to reflect the period of speedier ferrari, but if you make it 8 to include his horrors in Germany, guess what he still out points everyone. There's just no stopping him!
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