Lewis Hamilton

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Driver101

6,155 posts

69 months

Saturday 23rd November
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swisstoni said:
He’s on Graham Norton.
I think there was a clue about what he might get involved in when he retires. Grass roots support for young drivers.
Great driver, but he's not a good talk show guest.

Big Robbo

270 posts

94 months

Sunday 24th November
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yonex said:
37chevy said:
Really? Can’t have been watching this season then...

...strange though, you’re consistently bashing f1 but still keep returning, so either you love pain or haven’t got a clue
I did actually try and watch the last race, 15 laps of ‘highlights’ and turned it off. It’s crap, as is fawning over Hamilton and comparing him to actual legends of the sport.
Is it really fawning if you can appreciate someone doing their job well and acknowledge that fact? Or are you just a ill informed bog dwelling troglodyte who trolls for the sake of it, safe behind your fisher price my first compooter??

Kraken

1,266 posts

148 months

Sunday 24th November
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mattikake said:
He's said many times he'd love to have working class kids get into karting, so why doesn't he use his large cash stores to run a free kart track for under privileged kids in a talent spotting capacity? I would.
Define working class. I know many youngsters in karting whose parents most definitely work very hard to put them there.

epom

6,518 posts

109 months

Sunday 24th November
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Veg powered karts ??

Europa1

9,184 posts

136 months

Sunday 24th November
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yonex said:
I did actually try and watch the last race, 15 laps of ‘highlights’ and turned it off. It’s crap, as is fawning over Hamilton and comparing him to actual legends of the sport.
You, sir or madam, are an idiot.

Lannister902

1,260 posts

51 months

Sunday 24th November
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Europa1 said:
yonex said:
I did actually try and watch the last race, 15 laps of ‘highlights’ and turned it off. It’s crap, as is fawning over Hamilton and comparing him to actual legends of the sport.
You, sir or madam, are an idiot.
He's trolling, he's a troll.
The best/only way to get rid of idiots is completely ignore what they say.
They'll eventually go running to their mummies in tears asking her why they have no friends

dugsud

1,120 posts

211 months

Monday 25th November
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Driver101 said:
swisstoni said:
He’s on Graham Norton.
I think there was a clue about what he might get involved in when he retires. Grass roots support for young drivers.
Great driver, but he's not a good talk show guest.
I thought he came across pretty well actually...

He's not a comedian or an actor.....he's an athlete. Not sure how else he could be on a talk show.


Blink982

488 posts

52 months

Monday 25th November
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I agree, Lewis came across as a personable and down to earth person at the top of his game. It’s just a shame that he gets asked the same things over and over so it’s no surprise that we get to hear about his dad’s numerous jobs, fifth hand kart etc. I enjoyed his Letterman interview as although it also covered this, it went a bit deeper. I noticed that there was a fair bit of negative comments on twitter after the show. Ultimately, Lewis divides opinion and a lot of it comes back to his haircut, questionable fashion sense or the misconception that he doesn’t pay UK tax and no matter how many times it is explained, some people just don’t want to listen.

Sir Bagalot

5,106 posts

129 months

Monday 25th November
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For some reason my Tivo box recorded Graham Norton so I managed to watch it.

I hope that when he retires he'll set up some sort of foundation for skint kids.

What did strike me was when he said he was the second oldest driver on the grid (he's actually the third), I checked and he's 35 in January.

Now compared to me 35 is young, but we know what level of effort Lewis puts into his fitness. Personally I hope he drives many more laps but there will be a time when his level of skill starts to drop.

StevieBee

8,158 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th November
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dugsud said:
Driver101 said:
swisstoni said:
He’s on Graham Norton.
I think there was a clue about what he might get involved in when he retires. Grass roots support for young drivers.
Great driver, but he's not a good talk show guest.
I thought he came across pretty well actually...

He's not a comedian or an actor.....he's an athlete. Not sure how else he could be on a talk show.
Have look at him on that Letterman show on Netflix.

In other news, Lewis names his greatest nemesis as a Driving Instructor from Basildon:

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/18058217.lewis-ha...


mat205125

15,715 posts

161 months

Tuesday 26th November
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Kraken said:
mattikake said:
He's said many times he'd love to have working class kids get into karting, so why doesn't he use his large cash stores to run a free kart track for under privileged kids in a talent spotting capacity? I would.
Define working class. I know many youngsters in karting whose parents most definitely work very hard to put them there.
.... and those kids lucky enough to have parents with the means (well earned means!) would be ideal competition for the scholarship kids to compete against.

With the level of wealth that top level sportspeople have at their disposal, it's well within their capability to do much much more to live up to their words, than they actually end up doing in the real world.

Same for actors and musical artists also, of course.

StevieBee

8,158 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th November
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mat205125 said:
.... and those kids lucky enough to have parents with the means (well earned means!) would be ideal competition for the scholarship kids to compete against.

With the level of wealth that top level sportspeople have at their disposal, it's well within their capability to do much much more to live up to their words, than they actually end up doing in the real world.

Same for actors and musical artists also, of course.
When my lad was 14, he developed quite a skill in badminton. A very good one to the level where his club started to make overtones towards county and national levels, possibly olympic level.

Obviously this was something that we were keen to support but when you started to look at what that support entailed, it was rather eye-watering. Pretty much every weekend would require an overnight trip somewhere plus the cost of travelling as well as mid-week stuff impacting on work. Couple of European events as well. Some funding would trickle down but he had to reach a certain level before that happened. All in we were looking at a £10k commitment over an 18 month period.

And that's just badminton.

We would have backed him but he discovered girls and sort of lost interest.


Big Robbo

270 posts

94 months

Tuesday 26th November
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StevieBee said:
We would have backed him but he discovered girls and sort of lost interest.
Happens to the best of us , I've always thought that Hailey Dawson stopped me from being world champion with her womanly ways

37chevy

3,280 posts

104 months

Tuesday 26th November
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Big Robbo said:
StevieBee said:
We would have backed him but he discovered girls and sort of lost interest.
Happens to the best of us , I've always thought that Hailey Dawson stopped me from being world champion with her womanly ways
Not sure what’s more expensive in the long run...badminton or girls

Same happened with us and skiing...I used to ski for GB at under 21 level...all funding for winter sports was pulled prior to London 2012 to concentrate on the summer games and that was that. An expensive minority sport.

Thankfully the bob/ skeleton team had funding from university so they could continue

Edited by 37chevy on Tuesday 26th November 19:28

StevieBee

8,158 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th November
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Big Robbo said:
StevieBee said:
We would have backed him but he discovered girls and sort of lost interest.
Happens to the best of us , I've always thought that Hailey Dawson stopped me from being world champion with her womanly ways
Oooh, er..... OK. I think some expanded explanation is in order before the Yewtree boys arrive as all Google is throwing up is this young lady which has caused me to think of the episode of Big Bang Theory when Howard gets intimate with the robot arm that he built!


Deesee

3,243 posts

31 months

Tuesday 26th November
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Only driver to race every lap this year so far..

Let’s hear u...

Graveworm

2,756 posts

19 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Definitely he is on 32 consecutive points finishes. The current record is 33 which he also holds.

joema

2,363 posts

127 months

Wednesday 27th November
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mat205125 said:
.... and those kids lucky enough to have parents with the means (well earned means!) would be ideal competition for the scholarship kids to compete against.

With the level of wealth that top level sportspeople have at their disposal, it's well within their capability to do much much more to live up to their words, than they actually end up doing in the real world.

Same for actors and musical artists also, of course.
While it's a nice idea that would help a few it doesn't address the issue i.e. the cost for a season of karting is extremely high which affects participation for a lot of people.If you want to be at the front at national or European level you would be spending 6 figures on your kid. especially to get into single seaters. It puts racing, particularly getting to F1 well out of reach for most. Even club racing (to get noticed by anyone) is hugely expensive.

There are a lot of working class families but they're working hard, doing well in their respective trade and sacrificing elsewhere. Odds are against them of developing a successful career because costs are high.

The wealth also obscures talent as the better off will have the best engines, new tyres more often, new chassis, funding to go into the best teams who can charge £1k per weekend who will run the kid and set their kart up (set up knowledge is vital) etc.

Essentially the costs need to come down. This could either be limiting the amount of new tyres.

But Lewis is right. An academy or scholarship would be a token gesture and wouldn't solve the issues.

kiseca

7,706 posts

167 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Graveworm said:
Definitely he is on 32 consecutive points finishes. The current record is 33 which he also holds.
That is impressive. Obviously records like this become easier to break in modern years because you cover more races before the end of season churn than was true in the past, and indeed that for most of the 20th century races only the top 6 finishers scored points, but it's still an exceptional achievement for him and the team. It also reflects back on his first season, when, if I recall, he set a record for most consecutive points finishes for a rookie? I know his consistency was a standout feature in year 1.

I think modern conditions make this record easier to break IF you have the right car, but even with that, as a driver managing a season and a half without tripping over anyone enough to knock you out of the race, while being quick enough to always be in a points position, is exceptional. Not only that, he's managed it twice.

This is why he's so hard to beat. I was impressed when Max managed a good points finish when Vettel torpedoed him at Silverstone, and when Schumacher finished 2nd while stuck in 5th gear, but Lewis is eclipsing them both and with very little drama. Stays in the fight but stays out of trouble.

IforB

6,574 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th November
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kiseca said:
Graveworm said:
Definitely he is on 32 consecutive points finishes. The current record is 33 which he also holds.
That is impressive. Obviously records like this become easier to break in modern years because you cover more races before the end of season churn than was true in the past, and indeed that for most of the 20th century races only the top 6 finishers scored points, but it's still an exceptional achievement for him and the team. It also reflects back on his first season, when, if I recall, he set a record for most consecutive points finishes for a rookie? I know his consistency was a standout feature in year 1.

I think modern conditions make this record easier to break IF you have the right car, but even with that, as a driver managing a season and a half without tripping over anyone enough to knock you out of the race, while being quick enough to always be in a points position, is exceptional. Not only that, he's managed it twice.

This is why he's so hard to beat. I was impressed when Max managed a good points finish when Vettel torpedoed him at Silverstone, and when Schumacher finished 2nd while stuck in 5th gear, but Lewis is eclipsing them both and with very little drama. Stays in the fight but stays out of trouble.
Agreed, Hamilton appears to understand the difference between all out charging and going for every gap and opportunity and playing the percentages and coming out on top in the end.

This is what is so impressive about him in recent years, his speed is of course superb, but it is the intelligence that he races with that really impresses me. Knowing when and how hard to push, knowing how to look after the car and the tyres, understanding what is going on in the race and challenging his team on decisions and being adult enough to admit when he got it wrong and they got it right.

It isn't just the fact he is winning championships that is so impressive, it is that he is doing it by being better, working harder and constantly improving, rather than thinking he's the bee's knees and can just turn up and win.

He is very much the yard stick and any young driver who wants to know how to win should use him as a guide for not only how to drive, but how to conduct themselves and how they work out of the car too.

F1 is not a place for rampant egos and lone wolf prima donnas anymore, Hamilton (and Schumacher before him) proves that it truly is a team sport and whilst the driver is a critical part of it, to be great, you have to be part of a great team.