Liberty changes relationships and possibly the CEO

Liberty changes relationships and possibly the CEO

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Dr Murdoch

3,449 posts

136 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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rubystone said:
It's bks. Typical Benson bks. Too many obstacles to make it happen
Too many obstacles that Mr E put in place....

Never gonna happen.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Dr Murdoch said:
rubystone said:
It's bks. Typical Benson bks. Too many obstacles to make it happen
Too many obstacles that Mr E put in place....

Never gonna happen.
I know Benson gets the hate on PH, but Peter Windsor? Also don't shoot the messenger, he's only saying what he's been told (apparently).

Of course I think it's rubbish, I'm just thinking about how BE might have stopped a breakaway series in the past? Could he have bought everything that could equate to "something else" and sat on it for if the time was right?

What was BE's biggest problem owning F1, a rival series? If the teams decided to set up something else then what better position to be in than to own whatever they wanted?

Of course it's probably just rubbish smile

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Yipper said:
while younger viewers would rather play Counter Strike of a Sunday afternoon.
DOTA2, Overwatch, Titanfall 2, Rocket League and so on.

Can't blame them either.

KarlMac

4,480 posts

142 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
I know Benson gets the hate on PH, but Peter Windsor? Also don't shoot the messenger, he's only saying what he's been told (apparently).

Of course I think it's rubbish, I'm just thinking about how BE might have stopped a breakaway series in the past? Could he have bought everything that could equate to "something else" and sat on it for if the time was right?

What was BE's biggest problem owning F1, a rival series? If the teams decided to set up something else then what better position to be in than to own whatever they wanted?

Of course it's probably just rubbish smile
I think the biggest issue preventing a rival series is would any of the current teams want to work with Bernie again? Most seem to relieved / happy he's gone looking at he comments.

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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KarlMac said:
I think the biggest issue preventing a rival series is would any of the current teams want to work with Bernie again? Most seem to relieved / happy he's gone looking at he comments.
It's typical Bernie. "Oh that's happened?"

"Look over here..."

suffolk009

5,433 posts

166 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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I'd not really paid much attention to who and what Liberty are until just now. I hadn't realised that they're behind Discovery channel (and many others).

I'm begining to see why there is this big standoff between Sky and Discovery at the moment - Discovery, and others, will not longer be broadcast on Sky from 1st Feb.

All liberty need to do is develop their own Broadband distribution box and Sky will be completely cut out.

Mind you, in ten years time satelite dishes will be as out of date as renting a VHS tape from Blockbuster.

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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suffolk009 said:
All liberty need to do is develop their own Broadband distribution box and Sky will be completely cut out.
Just stream it like Netflix & Amazon.

You don't even need much capital (and interestingly Netflix uses Amazon hosting)... just PAYG and scale up/down based on demand...

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

153 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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KarlMac said:
I think the biggest issue preventing a rival series is would any of the current teams want to work with Bernie again? Most seem to relieved / happy he's gone looking at he comments.
Hmmm...maybe, maybe not.

He was a capricious old so n so in later years, but he made a lot of them very rich

r11co

6,244 posts

231 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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suffolk009 said:
I'm begining to see why there is this big standoff between Sky and Discovery at the moment - Discovery, and others, will not longer be broadcast on Sky from 1st Feb.

All liberty need to do is develop their own Broadband distribution box and Sky will be completely cut out.
Liberty are the company behind Virgin Media in the UK. wink

There's a discussion along these lines brewing in the TV, Film & Radio forum.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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r11co said:
Liberty are the company behind Virgin Media in the UK. wink

There's a discussion along these lines brewing in the TV, Film & Radio forum.
Sky never allowed virgin to get SkyF1 in HD, only SD
i doubt virgin will be very gracious with sky now the tables have turned

KevinCamaroSS

11,641 posts

281 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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Vocal Minority said:
Hmmm...maybe, maybe not.

He was a capricious old so n so in later years, but he made a lot of them very rich
How so? He removed the commercial aspect from the teams and pocketed it himself. You could argue he has made the teams much poorer. Who has he made very rich?

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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r11co said:
suffolk009 said:
I'm begining to see why there is this big standoff between Sky and Discovery at the moment - Discovery, and others, will not longer be broadcast on Sky from 1st Feb.

All liberty need to do is develop their own Broadband distribution box and Sky will be completely cut out.
Liberty are the company behind Virgin Media in the UK. wink

There's a discussion along these lines brewing in the TV, Film & Radio forum.
Please God no!

There may be all sorts of reasons to loath sky but at least it works! I think I'd rather give up being a fan than deal with virgin medias tech assistance chimps ever again

Some Guy

2,124 posts

92 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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If they offer up a seasons pass of HD streaming of every race and associated build up for a reasonable fee, then I would happily sign up for that.

PhillipM

6,524 posts

190 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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SystemParanoia said:
Sky never allowed virgin to get SkyF1 in HD, only SD
i doubt virgin will be very gracious with sky now the tables have turned
For the first year, they've had it since.

andygo

6,804 posts

256 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Derek Smith said:
Get some in! I'm well into my 60s and have been for over 10 years,
How does that work Derek? LOL. I'll have one of those 12 year decades please!!

Derek Smith

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45,704 posts

249 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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andygo said:
How does that work Derek? LOL. I'll have one of those 12 year decades please!!
If my elder daughter can be 5'13" (although still only third tallest fo my kids) I can be 69 and 15 months.


elandri

20 posts

111 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Interesting thread. I’m 64 and stopped watching F1 just after the Alesi, Prost, Senna, Mansell era – when it all got processional (about 25 years ago?).

In my younger days you fixed & tweaked your own car and raced your mates from one pub to the next. These days people don’t know what makes cars tick and with all the congestion, speed limits, policing and “social attitude” stuff it’s very hard to get any fun out of cars & driving and even harder to make a connection between that and motor sport.

While a new set of rules making cars narrower with less downforce etc. would be great I strongly suspect that the new F1 owners will go in completely the opposite direction and it’ll be all about spectacle, social media and TV rights hosted by a bevy of airhead bimbos who know nothing about cars, technology or racing.

But, fear not! It’s being going in that direction for decades. F1 hasn’t really had much to do with motor racing for ages and, as has been pointed out, there are other formulae where real cars engage in real racing so let’s just let that curious animal that is F1 go and do its own thing.

I can’t wait for the sun to come out so I can go and have some serious fun round the B roads of Norfolk on my SXV550 – old habits you know!

Eric Mc

122,055 posts

266 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Succinctly put.

The connection between F1 and other motor racing and general motoring has long since left the building.

StevieBee

12,930 posts

256 months

Tuesday 7th February 2017
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I have to say that I get some good vibes about where F1 could now be going. The proof is as always, in the pudding but they are making the right noises (unlike the engines!)

Trevatanus

11,125 posts

151 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Was as at a book signing with Ross and Adam Parr on Thursday.
Ross has a 5 year plan, which includes getting independent engine suppliers ie non manufacturers.
Also, tracks getting races based on the race they put on for the fans, rather than just how deep their pockets.
Very interesting evening.