Honda - another disaster ?

[cuprabob]

Car-Matt said:

Good race pace and able to overtake a Haas at Silverstone at the end for P8.

Wasn't Magnussen's HAAS car damaged after he and Grosjean had a coming together at the start of the race?

[Dr Z]

cuprabob said:

Frimley111R said:

Gasly says: "But in the corners, looking at the GPS, we are faster and it looks pretty good, but just on the straights at the moment we are really slow.
“Objectively we have no pace, not coming from the car, but from the engine.”

Where have we heard that before?....

Sounds as if they have the best chassis in field but the engine is letting them down

Very funny comments. Verstappen also called the Tag-Heuer/Renault an F2 engine yesterday!

[HustleRussell]

Car-Matt said:

If McL can qualify better there would be a case for them challenging for 4th in the constructors based on yesterday. Good race pace and able to overtake a Haas at Silverstone at the end for P8. Not bad for a team in huge turmoil and no wind tunnel correlation. It shows the potential is there if they eventually get their shizzle together.

thegreenhell said:

They dropped from 5th to 7th in the WCC over the last two races. They really need Vandoorne to start picking up points as well as Alonso if they want to challenge for 4th, or even scrape 5th.

I think both of you are being optimistic. Mclaren should be able to keep Toro Rosso and Sauber behind, and should be able to overhaul Force India who are in a dire financial situation and have already sprung the white flag for 2018 car development.

However I see no compelling evidence to suggest that Mclaren will be able to outscore Haas or Renault for the remainder of the season. Haas have on the whole underperformed this season with lots of points thrown away in Australia and only one point scoring driver until Austria but are looking strong mid-season, Renault have a useful points margin and Sainz has settled in and is performing.

I believe Alonso is flattering the car, particularly on Sundays, in a way Stoffel is not able to. The car doesn’t appear to be improving compared to the competition.

Tough weekends for Mclaren coming up in Belgium and Italy. The mixture of circuits in the second half of the season are no more favourable to Mclaren than those in the first half.