Liberty Media to 'make changes' in Barcelona...
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Looks like its a 'Fan Festival'.
dedicated fan television channel
Fan Zone with Zip wire, simulators and pitstop challenges
comps to win paddock club passes and photos with teams
2 seater f1 car rides
fan zone being set up... (edited to add photo credit to Martin Brundle)
dedicated fan television channel
Fan Zone with Zip wire, simulators and pitstop challenges
comps to win paddock club passes and photos with teams
2 seater f1 car rides
fan zone being set up... (edited to add photo credit to Martin Brundle)
Edited by LivingTheDream on Thursday 11th May 14:19
SpudLink said:
hornetrider said:
FourWheelDrift said:
I think they should use something like they use on NASCAR.
When they put graphics up like this.
Something like that occasionally.
That looks great I do like it. However I'd imagine it's complicated enough on a nice steady single camera shot on an oval, can't imagine how they'd do it in F1.When they put graphics up like this.
Something like that occasionally.
Kraken said:
So people really can't tell the difference between two cars painted the same by looking at the dayglo camera mounting?
Formula 1 ubergeeks can no doubt do this, but they are not numerous enough to sustain F1 in the long term. I suspect this is aimed at the more casual fan.Hardly need to be an ubergeek to realise that 1 of the 2 cars in the same team has a dirty great yellow bit stuck on top. A hell of a lot easier than trying to see the numbers on the shark fins from most angles.
Just more gimmicks and tinkering around the edges when what they really need to do is to improve the racing. Give them more fuel, unlimited harvesting/deployment and sort out the aero so the car behind in a corner is faster not slower.
Just more gimmicks and tinkering around the edges when what they really need to do is to improve the racing. Give them more fuel, unlimited harvesting/deployment and sort out the aero so the car behind in a corner is faster not slower.
coppice said:
If they started with a firing squad for the C list slebs who ponce around the grid, proclaiming their love of Effone but 'no I haven't been to a race before David ' - before they return to the pap free haven of the Paddock Club it would be a good start .
Who knows , they might actually let proles like me look at the cars in the pits again , as I did for many years .....
+1Who knows , they might actually let proles like me look at the cars in the pits again , as I did for many years .....
I just like racing cars to have nice big numbers. It's a "tradition" thing.
And the numbers can lend to the mythology which I think is an important aspect of sport.- like Gilles Villeneuve's No.12, or Moss No.7 or Mansell's "Red 5".
Even Lewis recognises this and he would love, I'm sure,. for his No.44 to become more iconic. Think of the branding potential.
Big, obvious, numbers make so much sense it's unbelievable that they were ever dropped. But, as we know, for years F1 has been run by arrogant and disinterested idiots who only saw the sport (and it still is a sport at heart) from their restricted viewpoint.
And the numbers can lend to the mythology which I think is an important aspect of sport.- like Gilles Villeneuve's No.12, or Moss No.7 or Mansell's "Red 5".
Even Lewis recognises this and he would love, I'm sure,. for his No.44 to become more iconic. Think of the branding potential.
Big, obvious, numbers make so much sense it's unbelievable that they were ever dropped. But, as we know, for years F1 has been run by arrogant and disinterested idiots who only saw the sport (and it still is a sport at heart) from their restricted viewpoint.
Kraken said:
Hardly need to be an ubergeek to realise that 1 of the 2 cars in the same team has a dirty great yellow bit stuck on top. A hell of a lot easier than trying to see the numbers on the shark fins from most angles.
Just more gimmicks and tinkering around the edges when what they really need to do is to improve the racing. Give them more fuel, unlimited harvesting/deployment and sort out the aero so the car behind in a corner is faster not slower.
Of course you do. Anyone can see the dayglo sticker you refer to, but how do you know who is in the car with the yellow sticker? What if you don't even know which drivers are in the pink/red/yellow cars?Just more gimmicks and tinkering around the edges when what they really need to do is to improve the racing. Give them more fuel, unlimited harvesting/deployment and sort out the aero so the car behind in a corner is faster not slower.
It's for new and casual fans. I don't understand how you can be against making it easier for non-nerds to identify the drivers. It's not like a choice has been made between big numbers & names on the car vs better racing!
Kraken said:
Hardly need to be an ubergeek to realise that 1 of the 2 cars in the same team has a dirty great yellow bit stuck on top. A hell of a lot easier than trying to see the numbers on the shark fins from most angles.
Just more gimmicks and tinkering around the edges when what they really need to do is to improve the racing. Give them more fuel, unlimited harvesting/deployment and sort out the aero so the car behind in a corner is faster not slower.
Just more gimmicks and tinkering around the edges when what they really need to do is to improve the racing. Give them more fuel, unlimited harvesting/deployment and sort out the aero so the car behind in a corner is faster not slower.
I wonder if you would consider the commentators to be ubergeeks?
They sometimes mix up two same team cars.
Think it happened again in the last race, with the Ferrari drivers.
I am in favour of easier identification, particularly because with long camera shots, the T bar is not always clearly visible.
Or, to tell you the truth, I cannot remember which drivers have the yellow. It used to be the longest serving team member, but that seems to be not always the case now.
HardtopManual said:
Kraken said:
Hardly need to be an ubergeek to realise that 1 of the 2 cars in the same team has a dirty great yellow bit stuck on top. A hell of a lot easier than trying to see the numbers on the shark fins from most angles.
Just more gimmicks and tinkering around the edges when what they really need to do is to improve the racing. Give them more fuel, unlimited harvesting/deployment and sort out the aero so the car behind in a corner is faster not slower.
Of course you do. Anyone can see the dayglo sticker you refer to, but how do you know who is in the car with the yellow sticker? What if you don't even know which drivers are in the pink/red/yellow cars?Just more gimmicks and tinkering around the edges when what they really need to do is to improve the racing. Give them more fuel, unlimited harvesting/deployment and sort out the aero so the car behind in a corner is faster not slower.
It's for new and casual fans. I don't understand how you can be against making it easier for non-nerds to identify the drivers. It's not like a choice has been made between big numbers & names on the car vs better racing!
I couldn't tell you which one has a dayglow number on.
Short of a mass regulation change mid season, I am not sure what you want Kraken. Especially with your 'make a car in nasty, mucky, unpredictable air quicker than a car in nice clean constant air' demand.
Why on earth is making the sport accessible for the casual making you so cross?
Kraken said:
Hardly need to be an ubergeek to realise that 1 of the 2 cars in the same team has a dirty great yellow bit stuck on top. A hell of a lot easier than trying to see the numbers on the shark fins from most angles.
So you see a car with a bit of yellow on and instantly know which of the 2 drivers it is ? I know I don`t.I completely understand and agree with why they`ve done it for the casual fan. It doesn`t make the `show` worse so why not do it ?
Eric Mc said:
I just like racing cars to have nice big numbers. It's a "tradition" thing.
And the numbers can lend to the mythology which I think is an important aspect of sport.- like Gilles Villeneuve's No.12, or Moss No.7 or Mansell's "Red 5".
Even Lewis recognises this and he would love, I'm sure,. for his No.44 to become more iconic. Think of the branding potential.
Big, obvious, numbers make so much sense it's unbelievable that they were ever dropped. But, as we know, for years F1 has been run by arrogant and disinterested idiots who only saw the sport (and it still is a sport at heart) from their restricted viewpoint.
It's just a shame that they didn't stipulate that the numbers on the nose must be positioned between the centre line of the front wheels and the tip of the nose. Some of the numbers, even when theyve been made larger, will still be difficult to see from certain angles. The Mercedes is a good example of this, with part of their numbers going in to the 'S' duct exit.And the numbers can lend to the mythology which I think is an important aspect of sport.- like Gilles Villeneuve's No.12, or Moss No.7 or Mansell's "Red 5".
Even Lewis recognises this and he would love, I'm sure,. for his No.44 to become more iconic. Think of the branding potential.
Big, obvious, numbers make so much sense it's unbelievable that they were ever dropped. But, as we know, for years F1 has been run by arrogant and disinterested idiots who only saw the sport (and it still is a sport at heart) from their restricted viewpoint.
Eric Mc said:
I just like racing cars to have nice big numbers. It's a "tradition" thing.
And the numbers can lend to the mythology which I think is an important aspect of sport.- like Gilles Villeneuve's No.12, or Moss No.7 or Mansell's "Red 5".
Even Lewis recognises this and he would love, I'm sure,. for his No.44 to become more iconic. Think of the branding potential.
Big, obvious, numbers make so much sense it's unbelievable that they were ever dropped. But, as we know, for years F1 has been run by arrogant and disinterested idiots who only saw the sport (and it still is a sport at heart) from their restricted viewpoint.
Not quite Gilles era, but Ferrari went retro with their numbers. I kinda like it.And the numbers can lend to the mythology which I think is an important aspect of sport.- like Gilles Villeneuve's No.12, or Moss No.7 or Mansell's "Red 5".
Even Lewis recognises this and he would love, I'm sure,. for his No.44 to become more iconic. Think of the branding potential.
Big, obvious, numbers make so much sense it's unbelievable that they were ever dropped. But, as we know, for years F1 has been run by arrogant and disinterested idiots who only saw the sport (and it still is a sport at heart) from their restricted viewpoint.
NASCAR had the driver's name on the sunstrip for a while changed this year because the series title sponsor has claimed it;
Pre 2017
2017
Not a huge issue because your car number is as important as your name. Even if you are a casual viewer you'll know "your" drivers by their race number. They've got plenty of space to have the numbers easily visible too of course - they are on every surface of the car..
Crafty_ said:
Not quite Gilles era, but Ferrari went retro with their numbers. I kinda like it.
NASCAR had the driver's name on the sunstrip for a while changed this year because the series title sponsor has claimed it;
Pre 2017
2017
Not a huge issue because your car number is as important as your name. Even if you are a casual viewer you'll know "your" drivers by their race number. They've got plenty of space to have the numbers easily visible too of course - they are on every surface of the car..
That Ferrari is pretty good, I think.NASCAR had the driver's name on the sunstrip for a while changed this year because the series title sponsor has claimed it;
Pre 2017
2017
Not a huge issue because your car number is as important as your name. Even if you are a casual viewer you'll know "your" drivers by their race number. They've got plenty of space to have the numbers easily visible too of course - they are on every surface of the car..
Dr Z said:
Passenger rides on this?
Liberty need to be careful with that one, because it'll remind the fans what F1 cars are supposed to sound like...
Edit: Patrick Friesacher and Zsolt Baumgartner behind the wheel apparently, with Paul Stoddart involved
Edited by stevesuk on Friday 12th May 08:56
FourWheelDrift said:
That has already been out doing laps. I know it was in Melbourne.
Yeah, it usually makes an appearance at Melbourne - but up until now, not elsewhere? I imagine what has happened is that "F1 Experiences" (which is a brand/offshoot of "F1"?) has "chartered" the car, and have got Paul Stoddart to run in their own livery? Perhaps a regular feature at most Grand Prix weekends from now on... Using the Manor/Marrusia motorhome/hospitality kit I read.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff