The Official 2017 Canadian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

[parabolica]

Sorry to steal your thunder sandman77, but as I'm heading there on Friday I couldn't wait for this thread any longer All credit for the below goes to Sandman as I butchered his Monaco thread to make this.


Date(s): Friday 9th - Sunday 11th June 2017

UK Broadcast Timings (and local time)

All sessions are live on Sky F1 with their usual build-up beforehand; qualy and race highlights on Channel 4 late evening:

Session	Day	Sky F1	Channel 4	Session Start	Local Time
Practice 1	Fri	1500	-	1500	1000
Practice 2	Fri	1900	-	1900	1400
Practice 3	Sat	1500	-	1500	1000
Qualifying	Sat	1800	2200	1800	1300
Race	Sun	1900	2230	1900	1400

FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2017



Tyre choices are Soft, SuperSoft and UltraSoft:



Live Timing here:

http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/f1-...

Event timings, steward decisions, technical reports and laptimes for the weekend will appear here:

http://www.fia.com/championship/events/fia-formula...

Weather forecast:

http://www.myweather2.com/City-Town/Canada/Quebec/...
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A power track through and through, will Merc be as dominant here as expected or do Ferrari finally have the measure of them? Will Red Bull bring the performance step-up they have been promising and will McLaren finally get their first points of the season?

Edited by parabolica on Monday 5th June 20:03

[Steamer]

Many thanks


(...although you've still got Monaco's Thursday practice showing instead of Friday)

[parabolica]

Steamer said:

Many thanks


(...although you've still got Monaco's Thursday practice showing instead of Friday)

Good spot; fixed now. I'm never making another one of these; what a PITA they are to do!!

[Dr Z]

parabolica said:

Good spot; fixed now. I'm never making another one of these; what a PITA they are to do!!

Nice to see new OPs!

Interesting to note that Ferrari were only two tenths off Merc in qualifying trim last year. Merc had superior race pace but Vettel managed to give Merc something to think about during the race. Who remembers this?



Reckon this could be a straight fight between Merc and Ferrari. Very keen to see how Bottas gets on here, fairly low deg circuit, but I'm not expecting Merc to have problems with dialling the car in as there's lots of medium speed corners, and a couple of low speed ones.

I think it could be a good outing for McLaren seeing their performance in Monaco and they've generally been quite good in the medium speed stuff...if and that's a very big if, they don't lose too much performance on the straights.

Following on from this, it could be a good outing for RB too, although I'd expect Williams to be up there. Stroll to overcook it in front of the home crowd into the Wall? For Williams' sake, I hope he finds something within himself to perform better.

[rdjohn]

An odd tyre choice for Vandorme - only 1-Soft?

No doubt a one-stopper, so undercuts / overcuts will be decisive again.

Hopefully, Mercedes will be able to turn on the Ultrasofts.

Red Bull will need to be wary of Force India, who go well in a straight line.

[The Moose]

Which tyre choice is the mandatory one to run during the race?

[parabolica]

As long as they run at least 2 out of the 3 options it doesn't matter? I think...

Can't wait to get there; going to miss most of Friday unfortunately but it was all very last minute. The Montreal circuit has always looked amazing on TV; and it looks like it's going to be a decent weekend weather wise (although rain is always welcome at this race!).

Edited by parabolica on Monday 5th June 20:05

[Derek Smith]

Canada generally produces a great race, even when it is dry. Looking forward to this one.

I reckon this might favour Merc, but then who knows nowadays.

[rdjohn]

parabolica said:

As long as they run at least 2 out of the 3 options it doesn't matter? I think...

Can't wait to get there; going to miss most of Friday unfortunately but it was all very last minute. The Montreal circuit has always looked amazing on TV; and it looks like it's going to be a decent weekend weather wise (although rain is always welcome at this race!).

Edited by parabolica on Monday 5th June 20:05

I know a couple of people who have been at different times and both said it was great because the whole city lives and breathes the event and that the island is a village in permanent party mode.

From what they have said, I am certain that you will enjoy it.

Have a great time.

[sandman77]

Thanks for starting the thread but I cannot take any credit for the format. It is Dr Z's template we all use.

[sandman77]

Are we looking at a one stop race this weekend?

[CraigyMc]

sandman77 said:

Are we looking at a one stop race this weekend?

The forecast for Friday practise is rain. That'll mean that they teams have to rely on their models for the strategy.

It's likely that everyone who can, will run the ultra as long as they can then their one other tyre. Montreal is all straights and hairpins.

[Dr Z]

The Moose said:

Which tyre choice is the mandatory one to run during the race?

Last year the Soft was the mandatory one which pushed the strategy firmly in the 1-stop direction, but this year I think it's a choice between super soft and soft. Seeing the durability of the 2017 tyres, it will probably be a 1-stop with US/SS.

Even with last year's tyres the front runners were pushing in the 1st stint and that did see some tyre drop off, so the degradation will be there if pushed--we can be certain that they will push hard in the 1st stint, as it has become a pattern in 2017 so far.

The levels of degradation different teams/drivers see in the 1st stint will then determine if a one or two stop will be the viable strategy. Depending on the pace, maybe an ultra soft with an early stop to Softs and run to the end. Or mirroring Ferrari's last year's strategy, Ultra soft/Ultra soft/Super soft. Or maybe Ultra soft, with an early switch to Super soft with the aim to have a short sprint on the ultra soft in the end to have a bigger pace advantage over 1-stoppers running on old softs/super softs.

Just throwing it out there, not knowing what the computers will predict at the end of FP3 for the teams.

[another 3 points]

Rain on Sunday too if I'm reading the weather link correctly. Shame as I was looking forward to another straight fight between Ham & Vettel. Could have saved the rain for Silverstone next month. Groan ...moan...grumble...

[suffolk009]

If it rains then McLaren will be in the points.

Whatever the weather the podium will feature RAI, VET and BOT. I'm just not sure in what order.

[Mr_Thyroid]

Dr Z said:

Why the seagulls are saying "Mine"?

[Quickmoose]

Mr_Thyroid said:

Why the seagulls are saying "Mine"?

"Finding Nemo"...that's what the seagulls say...that's all they say.... scavs, claiming their scraps.

[The Moose]

another 3 points said:

Rain on Sunday too if I'm reading the weather link correctly. Shame as I was looking forward to another straight fight between Ham & Vettel. Could have saved the rain for Silverstone next month. Groan ...moan...grumble...

As long as it doesn't rain at Austin, I'm happy! The rain will make it more exciting

[HustleRussell]

If it's dry can we expect Hamilton to be all at sea again due to the low abrasion tarmac? I've always thought of Canada as a Hamilton circuit but if his tyre struggles continue...

The Mercedes could be the better car in the wet, it remains to be seen.

Will the energy drink cars be able to keep Massa and the Force Indias behind?

[fttm]

Checking the weather network which seems the most reliable source here I reckon there could well be a shower or two during the race , but we're still a few days away yet .