Kubica back in an F1 car

Kubica back in an F1 car

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Bright Halo

2,966 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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He is on the grid for 2019
That can be the end of the story.
What a great film it would make, no more needed, roll the credits.

Incredible.

Edited by Bright Halo on Sunday 25th November 07:42

Jasandjules

69,899 posts

229 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Bright Halo said:
H is on the grid for 2019
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That could be a Tragedy

skinny

5,269 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Rich_W said:
I even wonder about the physical aspect over a race distance.
Hes already done two race distances in a day with Renault at last year's test? If he wasn't up to it he wouldn't be there

Edited by skinny on Saturday 24th November 23:25

skinny

5,269 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Rich_W said:
I even wonder about the physical aspect over a race distance.
Hes already done two race distances in a day with Renault at last year's test? If he wasn't up to it he wouldn't be there

Edited by skinny on Sunday 25th November 11:33

Leithen

10,893 posts

267 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Jasandjules said:
It will be a hell of a drive if he does given the team mate and skills. Going to be very interesting to find out.
Let's just pray that they have a car that isn't a complete dog.

Mr Tidy

22,334 posts

127 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Leithen said:
Let's just pray that they have a car that isn't a complete dog.
But given we are talking about Williams, it surely will be!

stewjohnst

2,442 posts

161 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Jasandjules said:
Bright Halo said:
H is on the grid for 2019
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That could be a Tragedy
That’s a few steps too far

wink

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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skinny said:
Hes already done two race distances in a day with Renault at last year's test? If he wasn't up to it he wouldn't be there
Racing is ALWAYS more intense.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Rich_W said:
skinny said:
Hes already done two race distances in a day with Renault at last year's test? If he wasn't up to it he wouldn't be there
Racing is ALWAYS more intense.
Race distance vs race weekend , very different thing imo

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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liner33 said:
Rich_W said:
skinny said:
Hes already done two race distances in a day with Renault at last year's test? If he wasn't up to it he wouldn't be there
Racing is ALWAYS more intense.
Race distance vs race weekend , very different thing imo
yes

2 x 2 hour tests with a handful of other guys and no wheel to wheel and people generally keeping out of each others way
vs

2 x 90 min Practice sessions
1 x 1hour Practice
1 x 20mins Q1 (wont get further hehe)
Then potentially a 2 hour race

And of course some races are back to back to back. So accumulated tiredness becomes a thing!

thegreenhell

15,351 posts

219 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Rich_W said:
yes

2 x 2 hour tests with a handful of other guys and no wheel to wheel and people generally keeping out of each others way
vs

2 x 90 min Practice sessions
1 x 1hour Practice
1 x 20mins Q1 (wont get further hehe)
Then potentially a 2 hour race

And of course some races are back to back to back. So accumulated tiredness becomes a thing!
You should forward your concerns to Williams as I'm sure they haven't considered any of this.

glazbagun

14,280 posts

197 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Kubica was racing in the N/A days so I'm sure he's up to the fitness/fatigue demands.

I am interested to see how he handles being at the back of the grid on a track full of bumper-cars. Has he been single-seater racing in the past couple of years?

Vaud

50,509 posts

155 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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glazbagun said:
Kubica was racing in the N/A days so I'm sure he's up to the fitness/fatigue demands.

I am interested to see how he handles being at the back of the grid on a track full of bumper-cars. Has he been single-seater racing in the past couple of years?
Don't think so. That said, how advanced are the simulators these days? Do they only simulate one car / many tracks or do they simulate other cars as well?

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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thegreenhell said:
You should forward your concerns to Williams as I'm sure they haven't considered any of this.
My gut is that Williams are more concerned with using the millions he must be bringing with him, and the "good news pr story" to keep the lights on.

Look at the Sirotkin choice if you want to know how they REALLY feel about putting someone not very fast in their car

Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 25th November 22:11

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

138 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Rich_W said:
thegreenhell said:
You should forward your concerns to Williams as I'm sure they haven't considered any of this.
My gut is that Williams are more concerned with using the millions he must be bringing with him, and the "good news pr story" to keep the lights on.

Look at the Sirotkin choice if you want to know how they REALLY feel about putting someone not very fast in their car

Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 25th November 22:11
I agree it’s about the money with Kubica, my thoughts on him are clear in this thread already, however I think Sirotkin was credible and all he’s really done is improve Lance’s stock IMO.

Lance has scored points at every opportunity in that car when it’s been possible, he’s maximised on every opportunity pretty much, I think he’s way more decent than he’s given credit for and that’s hurt Sirotkin because the general thougjts were Lance is poor.

chunder27

2,309 posts

208 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Lance is poor, he has spent his entire life with Daddy getting him the very best, even buying engines and teams to do so.

He was never going to get that at Williams so basically bought a tam to ensure his son gets a ride for the next 5 years or so.

it is pathetic really, sad aswell that Williams had to stoop to this level.

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

138 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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If Lance is soooo poor how come he comfortably dispatched Sirotkin and got a Podium in his first year.

Like it or not Every time that circumstance has conspired to make that rubbish Williams have a chance and be competitive Kance has taken the chance and put the points on the board.

He’s certainly not the best but he’s not terrible and has put in some decent drives

HighwayStar

4,259 posts

144 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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chunder27 said:
Lance is poor, he has spent his entire life with Daddy getting him the very best, even buying engines and teams to do so.

He was never going to get that at Williams so basically bought a tam to ensure his son gets a ride for the next 5 years or so.

it is pathetic really, sad aswell that Williams had to stoop to this level.
If RP Force India manage to produce their usual decent car, Perez is a decent driver, Lance will have no where to hide. We’ll see what he’s got.

Re Williams, no one expects them to produce the car of 2019 but I’m hoping they put together a good package they can build on and give them a chance to battle with the teams above them.

Mr Tidy

22,334 posts

127 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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HighwayStar said:
If RP Force India manage to produce their usual decent car, Perez is a decent driver, Lance will have no where to hide. We’ll see what he’s got.
Yes, that will be interesting - just a shame it has come at the expense of Esteban Ocon who has generally had similar pace to Sergio Perez.

HighwayStar

4,259 posts

144 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Mr Tidy said:
HighwayStar said:
If RP Force India manage to produce their usual decent car, Perez is a decent driver, Lance will have no where to hide. We’ll see what he’s got.
Yes, that will be interesting - just a shame it has come at the expense of Esteban Ocon who has generally had similar pace to Sergio Perez.
Yes, there are a lot of good drivers around at the moment but with teams running their own academies it's understandable that the other teams don't want to act as a fishing school for someone else's driver or become a feeder team.
I am hoping that Lance does actually perform well at Force India, he's taken a lot of stick. He's won stuff in the lower formulas. He can't help that the old man is wedged but he still actually had to drive the car. Hopefully Ocon will make a return in 2020...Things were simmering away nicely between him and the you Prince Max. Max irritated, with a bee in his bonnet is always good viewing in my book.