Kubica back in an F1 car

Kubica back in an F1 car

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stevesingo

4,858 posts

223 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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williamp said:
Have you forgotten Palmer??
Who? hehe

skinny

5,269 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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He's slower than stroll but this is only the 2nd time (I think?) he has driven that car whereas stroll has had a year in it plus a load of laps at that circuit from the weekend just gone.

Add to that, Williams will probably want to keep outside expectations low maybe with high fuel runs or hard tyres so that Kubica doesn't set very quick times (Even if when adjusted, they are actually quick) to temper opinion.

He's not 4 seconds off or anything which I think most people considering a driver with a crippled arm might expect. That he's doing reasonable times I think is still a really impressive feat.

I'd love to see a fly on the wall documentary on his recovery and return

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

228 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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OK we don't know the fuel loads or setups but how close to Stroll was Di Resta in the handfull of laps he got in qualifying? (the answer is 7 tenths, and 4 tenths in the race). Kubica did 100 laps.

Are you sure you wanted to retire Felipe?

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Mr_Thyroid said:
OK we don't know the fuel loads or setups but how close to Stroll was Di Resta in the handfull of laps he got in qualifying? (the answer is 7 tenths, and 4 tenths in the race). Kubica did 100 laps.

Are you sure you wanted to retire Felipe?
Are you sure you have enough information to make that observation?

HustleRussell

24,726 posts

161 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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It's ok, the people who actually believe that Kubica is 1.7s slower than Lance Stroll all else being equal will have egg on their faces tomorrow.

8V085

670 posts

78 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Are you sure you wanted to retire Felipe?
No please no. I don't think I could stand another cringy good bye tour from him in Brazil next year.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Times are irrelevant. Kubica has the seat. I’m quite excited about it. It’s only a one year deal plus options and guarantees column inches for the team whilst still leaving them free to pick up the fallout from the 2019/20 merry go round. Win/win.

HustleRussell

24,726 posts

161 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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skinny said:
He's slower than stroll but this is only the 2nd time (I think?) he has driven that car whereas stroll has had a year in it plus a load of laps at that circuit from the weekend just gone.

Add to that, Williams will probably want to keep outside expectations low maybe with high fuel runs or hard tyres so that Kubica doesn't set very quick times (Even if when adjusted, they are actually quick) to temper opinion.

He's not 4 seconds off or anything which I think most people considering a driver with a crippled arm might expect. That he's doing reasonable times I think is still a really impressive feat.
We'll probably never know how Kubica will stack up against his immediate competition until Aus 2018 but I fully expect him to be within a few tenths of where he needs to be tomorrow. At this stage I'd be far more interested in whether he can get the tyres in the window without too much difficulty, manage the car and lap consistently.
If he'd binned it in the pit exit I'd be concerned- but Robert now has three race distances under his belt in two different 2017 spec cars. His injury is clearly not much of an impediment.

ronmac7

11 posts

135 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Is Kubica going to be able to get himself out of the car in the required time in event of an incident, bearing in mind it will have the halo in place next season. That must be doubtful as current drivers without his arm disability seem to be struggling to make the time. ?.

MartG

20,694 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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ronmac7 said:
Is Kubica going to be able to get himself out of the car in the required time in event of an incident, bearing in mind it will have the halo in place next season. That must be doubtful as current drivers without his arm disability seem to be struggling to make the time. ?.
He had to do the mandatory 'get out of the car in x seconds' test before he could drive it

ronmac7

11 posts

135 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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With the Halo in place ?.

MartG

20,694 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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ronmac7 said:
With the Halo in place ?.
If testing with the halo in place, then my guess would be they'd all have to do an escape test

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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MartG said:
ronmac7 said:
With the Halo in place ?.
If testing with the halo in place, then my guess would be they'd all have to do an escape test
Yup, and apparently Bottas failed it the other day...

gmaz

4,414 posts

211 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Vaud said:
Yup, and apparently Bottas failed it the other day...
Bottas has quite a stocky body shape. It may be easier for the beanpole drivers. Mansell/Montoya would be stuck in there for ever.

cuprabob

14,676 posts

215 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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I wonder if when Rob Smedley pops into his local pub if he get punters coming up to him asking him "have you thought about xxxx?" smile


Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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cuprabob said:
I wonder if when Rob Smedley pops into his local pub if he get punters coming up to him asking him "have you thought about xxxx?" smile
Probably. I have found some of the senior F1 team (non-driver) members being very willing to explain concepts and ideas from first principles in a very nice and non-condescending manner.

Most of the drivers I have met have been very engaging to naive questions, though that may be because they mostly have egos the size of a planet and are then the centre of attention.

FourWheelDrift

88,555 posts

285 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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cuprabob said:
I wonder if when Rob Smedley pops into his local pub if he get punters coming up to him asking him "have you thought about xxxx?" smile
Yes but he keeps telling Paul di Resta that he still recognises him under the wig and beard and tells him to to go home and wait.

cuprabob

14,676 posts

215 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
Yes but he keeps telling Paul di Resta that he still recognises him under the wig and beard and tells him to to go home and wait.
hehe

rdjohn

6,189 posts

196 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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I just hope the final decision is based purely on performance and not because some slimeball mate of Putin can top Robert’s $8million.

8V085

670 posts

78 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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rdjohn said:
I just hope the final decision is based purely on performance and not because some slimeball mate of Putin can top Robert’s $8million.
Soviet bloc collapsed in 1989, I doubt that Kubica being a Pole can count on major support from the Russians.