Kubica back in an F1 car
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HustleRussell said:
motorsport.com said:
Conspiracy theories arise from amazing feats that do not have an easy explanation; Maldonado's victory in the Spanish Grand Prix was something like it.
The surprise was not caused by the victory of a team that had not won for a long time, they have not had good performance for many seasons, but, because it was precisely in commemoration of the seventieth anniversary of Sir Frank Williams, founder and owner of the team and great friend of the Formula One boss, Bernie Ecclestone.
To crown all suspicious that positive coincidences arising, shortly after the race there was a fire in boxes at The Circuit of Catalunya in the garage of Williams...
"That was the Spanish GP ... Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president all-powerful man who controls everything in his country, including the gigantic state oil company that pays for the seat of Maldonado at Williams, not like the King of Spain, the elephant hunter, who sent him to silence mouth in public amid international conference, scene recorded on video and shown around the world .. He should have paid Ecclestone or Pirelli to make Maldonado to win; he's on his presidential campaign trying his third term of 6 years... A victory for Maldonado in Spain is a great advertisement for his government. Maldonado is a personal friend of Chavez; the two guys are aggressive and angry ...”
"Anyone who believes that the Williams car all of a sudden, can win a Grand Prix without any thing wrong is acting, he must also believe in Santa Claus. I doubt they can repeat the feat in the remaining 13 championship's races. At the maximum they will make some points characteristic of teams vying for midfield ...”
"This is proof of how Ecclestone enriched with the bookmakers in England, he controls the outcome of this circus ... He wanted to please his old friend honoring him with a victory of his bankrupted team ... Must have sent Pirelli a message to deliver “special tires” for Williams put on Maldonado's car, or have advised the team to use some technical advantage outside the regulations as increase the 18,000 rpm allowed, and after sent their own mechanics to burn the garage to erase the traces or evidence of the wrongdoing ... "
"I do not know why Ecclestone has not hired Hulk Hogan to drive cars in F1, then he would make it clear that everything is combined, as in the struggles of wresting on American TV, that still are very successful in Mexico ... and speaking of Mexico ... Perez is one that should be checked to win a race, to the delight of the richest man in the world, its sponsor ... it's all about the money ...”
The fact is that the 2012 season ended without Maldonado repeating the performance he obtained the Spanish GP. Right at the next race in Monaco, a race where the best cars do not always prevail, where one could expect another good performance from Williams, the Venezuelan crashed his car, making the same mistakes that have marked his career.
The surprise was not caused by the victory of a team that had not won for a long time, they have not had good performance for many seasons, but, because it was precisely in commemoration of the seventieth anniversary of Sir Frank Williams, founder and owner of the team and great friend of the Formula One boss, Bernie Ecclestone.
To crown all suspicious that positive coincidences arising, shortly after the race there was a fire in boxes at The Circuit of Catalunya in the garage of Williams...
"That was the Spanish GP ... Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president all-powerful man who controls everything in his country, including the gigantic state oil company that pays for the seat of Maldonado at Williams, not like the King of Spain, the elephant hunter, who sent him to silence mouth in public amid international conference, scene recorded on video and shown around the world .. He should have paid Ecclestone or Pirelli to make Maldonado to win; he's on his presidential campaign trying his third term of 6 years... A victory for Maldonado in Spain is a great advertisement for his government. Maldonado is a personal friend of Chavez; the two guys are aggressive and angry ...”
"Anyone who believes that the Williams car all of a sudden, can win a Grand Prix without any thing wrong is acting, he must also believe in Santa Claus. I doubt they can repeat the feat in the remaining 13 championship's races. At the maximum they will make some points characteristic of teams vying for midfield ...”
"This is proof of how Ecclestone enriched with the bookmakers in England, he controls the outcome of this circus ... He wanted to please his old friend honoring him with a victory of his bankrupted team ... Must have sent Pirelli a message to deliver “special tires” for Williams put on Maldonado's car, or have advised the team to use some technical advantage outside the regulations as increase the 18,000 rpm allowed, and after sent their own mechanics to burn the garage to erase the traces or evidence of the wrongdoing ... "
"I do not know why Ecclestone has not hired Hulk Hogan to drive cars in F1, then he would make it clear that everything is combined, as in the struggles of wresting on American TV, that still are very successful in Mexico ... and speaking of Mexico ... Perez is one that should be checked to win a race, to the delight of the richest man in the world, its sponsor ... it's all about the money ...”
The fact is that the 2012 season ended without Maldonado repeating the performance he obtained the Spanish GP. Right at the next race in Monaco, a race where the best cars do not always prevail, where one could expect another good performance from Williams, the Venezuelan crashed his car, making the same mistakes that have marked his career.
ks! It was fking touch and go that no one died as a lot of people from different teams were handing fire bottles over the top of each other to try and put it out with those at the front stuck in the smoke unable to get out or breathe. It also properly fked things for months to come as a lot of not easily replaceable kit went up in flames.
Frank Williams was born in the month of April. The 2012 Spanish GP took place in the month of May. Pastor Maldonado lost the lead at the start of the race, and had a slow pit stop. It was Bruno Senna's car that caught fire, not Maldonado's.
Maldonado qualified between 2nd and 4th (or 3rd, one of the two) a handful of other times that year. The problem was that this occured on street circuits, unlike Barcelona, where it was easier for Maldonado to make errors. Which he did. Although in fairness, the car had a mechanical issue at one of the tracks. It might have been Singapore.
Back to Kubica, he has said if something happens for 2019, we will know by September-October, but he can see why it is a risk for team owners to take a chance on him.
Kubica was a guest on the F1 Beyond the Grid podcast a few days ago - well worth a listen. https://youtu.be/ynG1RQLmyP8
Maldonado qualified between 2nd and 4th (or 3rd, one of the two) a handful of other times that year. The problem was that this occured on street circuits, unlike Barcelona, where it was easier for Maldonado to make errors. Which he did. Although in fairness, the car had a mechanical issue at one of the tracks. It might have been Singapore.
Back to Kubica, he has said if something happens for 2019, we will know by September-October, but he can see why it is a risk for team owners to take a chance on him.
Kubica was a guest on the F1 Beyond the Grid podcast a few days ago - well worth a listen. https://youtu.be/ynG1RQLmyP8
A15 said:
Frank Williams was born in the month of April. The 2012 Spanish GP took place in the month of May. Pastor Maldonado lost the lead at the start of the race, and had a slow pit stop. It was Bruno Senna's car that caught fire, not Maldonado's.
Maldonado qualified between 2nd and 4th (or 3rd, one of the two) a handful of other times that year. The problem was that this occured on street circuits, unlike Barcelona, where it was easier for Maldonado to make errors. Which he did. Although in fairness, the car had a mechanical issue at one of the tracks. It might have been Singapore.
If you look at the results that year, it seemed as if the Spanish GP started something in Pastor as up until then the qualifying/finishing positions were unremarkable. After Spain, Pastor's best qualifying positions were: 3rd (Valencia), 3rd (Spa), 2nd (Singapore) and 4th (Abu Dhabi). I think that year the cars that had the most downforce did not play well with the tyres, and in my view the teams/cars that did not have as much downforce were able to 'find' the right setup more often than not. Hence, Sauber & Ferrari also doing well that year.Maldonado qualified between 2nd and 4th (or 3rd, one of the two) a handful of other times that year. The problem was that this occured on street circuits, unlike Barcelona, where it was easier for Maldonado to make errors. Which he did. Although in fairness, the car had a mechanical issue at one of the tracks. It might have been Singapore.
thegreenhell said:
Take it Robert... Take it! The Williams may have issues but if you're a racer you want to be out on the track for every race!! IMO 
Fire99 said:
thegreenhell said:
Take it Robert... Take it! The Williams may have issues but if you're a racer you want to be out on the track for every race!! IMO https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rob-smedley-fut...
Not just spending more time with his family then.
thegreenhell said:
There’s more gobbledygook in that interview than I’ve had hot aubergines. Or maybe not. But I might do, I will consider it what is best looking forward. Open arms, yadeyadayah Of course a major issue for Kubica is his physical limitations & although he claims he can perform there must have been enough to concern Renault when they didn't continue with him. If there are any issues then a development role with Ferrari is possibly going to be much more suited to his physical abilities than dragging a dog of a car round for 20 odd races.
slipstream 1985 said:
He needs to go for it with Williams, Ferarri will never have him in a race car in a race unless one of their drivers is unable to race at the start of the meeting but he would be so out of sorts it would be pointless.
Ferrari’s reserve driver is the Sauber driver (not kimi)If it is a genuine offer from Williams then he should take it.
What a fantastic true story that would be of a triumph against adversity. A film in the making!
Once in the driving seat and proving himself as much as the car will allow he may then go on to in a top team. Who knows.
Amazing person.
What a fantastic true story that would be of a triumph against adversity. A film in the making!
Once in the driving seat and proving himself as much as the car will allow he may then go on to in a top team. Who knows.
Amazing person.
It's short term vs long term which is basically what he's saying in the interviews. The Williams deal isn't likely to be for more than a year with the amount of drivers that will be around etc. With Ferrari he wouldn't be racing the F1 car but Ferrari race in other series and are always open to their drivers doing different things.
All depends if driving around at the back satisfies his "unfinished business F1 urge" in F1 or not.
All depends if driving around at the back satisfies his "unfinished business F1 urge" in F1 or not.
Mr Pointy said:
Fire99 said:
thegreenhell said:
Take it Robert... Take it! The Williams may have issues but if you're a racer you want to be out on the track for every race!! IMO https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rob-smedley-fut...
Not just spending more time with his family then.
Mr Pointy said:
Fire99 said:
thegreenhell said:
Take it Robert... Take it! The Williams may have issues but if you're a racer you want to be out on the track for every race!! IMO Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff