Discussion
Cold said:
Away from the pages of PH, Nico is still very popular. Great reception for him with loud cheers and applause at Goodwood today.
Balcony selfie:
Yep - for what its worth I like and admire the man, he achieved something most can only dream of and did so against one of the best drivers in the World in the same car. Those that boo him and others tend to be very biased 'fans' and would boo him regardless just because he beat their favourite driver. I prefer to just watch 20 of the best drivers in the world fight it out every couple of weeks.Balcony selfie:
But more than that, I think he's more 'normal' than most World Champions, he realised there is more to life than F1 and left to experience it, to have the ability to realise that and get out at his peak is something very few drivers manage.
He may decide to come back, he may not, but he's doing things on his own terms now, all credit to him. Retired F1 World Champion, Millionaire, Father, Husband, not done too badly has he.
My views of Nico Rosberg are contradictory - they change according to the circumstances. I admire what he has achieved - not just in terms of achieving his dream, but in doing so as (a) Lewis Hamilton's teammate, and (b) as the son of a former F1 world champion, and then having the balls to retire.
What causes my view of him to oscillate is that in one-to-one interviews he comes across as a thoroughly affable, well adjusted, well spoken chap, but in crowd situations (eg post-race podium interviews) he comes across as a total, cringeworthy cheeseball.
What causes my view of him to oscillate is that in one-to-one interviews he comes across as a thoroughly affable, well adjusted, well spoken chap, but in crowd situations (eg post-race podium interviews) he comes across as a total, cringeworthy cheeseball.
CoolHands said:
He didn't deserve the championship though
WDC points accumulationand the competence of his teammate indicate otherwise,The underlying criticism seems to be that he's not Lewis. If the results and points had been reversed then nobody would be questioning Hamilton having won the 2016 WDC. If in that last race Nico had been the one backing up Lewis then there would have been a massive outcry,
And if Nico is underserving then it diminishes Hamilton because you have to explain why the gulf between them was not massively greater,
Reality is Hamilton is utterly brilliant but occasionally imperfect. If the WDC is close then those imperfect days cost disproportionately. Same thing could potentially happen this year slugging it down to the last point with vettel.
Dryce said:
WDC points accumulationand the competence of his teammate indicate otherwise,
The underlying criticism seems to be that he's not Lewis. If the results and points had been reversed then nobody would be questioning Hamilton having won the 2016 WDC. If in that last race Nico had been the one backing up Lewis then there would have been a massive outcry,
And if Nico is underserving then it diminishes Hamilton because you have to explain why the gulf between them was not massively greater,
Reality is Hamilton is utterly brilliant but occasionally imperfect. If the WDC is close then those imperfect days cost disproportionately. Same thing could potentially happen this year slugging it down to the last point with vettel.
You are discounting that Hamilton was fighting with one hand tied behind his back most of the time.The underlying criticism seems to be that he's not Lewis. If the results and points had been reversed then nobody would be questioning Hamilton having won the 2016 WDC. If in that last race Nico had been the one backing up Lewis then there would have been a massive outcry,
And if Nico is underserving then it diminishes Hamilton because you have to explain why the gulf between them was not massively greater,
Reality is Hamilton is utterly brilliant but occasionally imperfect. If the WDC is close then those imperfect days cost disproportionately. Same thing could potentially happen this year slugging it down to the last point with vettel.
I think its fair to say had he enjoyed the reliability Rosberg did, he's likely to be x4 WDC. Even if he wasn't perfect all the time (Baku for example).
But, thats not what happened. Just like Keke circumstances for Rosberg prevailed. It happens.
Difficult to say either were the best driver on the grid in their WDC years - but ultimately, they won and are in the history books.
lets move on
Crafty_ said:
Dryce said:
WDC points accumulationand the competence of his teammate indicate otherwise,
The underlying criticism seems to be that he's not Lewis. If the results and points had been reversed then nobody would be questioning Hamilton having won the 2016 WDC. If in that last race Nico had been the one backing up Lewis then there would have been a massive outcry,
And if Nico is underserving then it diminishes Hamilton because you have to explain why the gulf between them was not massively greater,
Reality is Hamilton is utterly brilliant but occasionally imperfect. If the WDC is close then those imperfect days cost disproportionately. Same thing could potentially happen this year slugging it down to the last point with vettel.
You are discounting that Hamilton was fighting with one hand tied behind his back most of the time.The underlying criticism seems to be that he's not Lewis. If the results and points had been reversed then nobody would be questioning Hamilton having won the 2016 WDC. If in that last race Nico had been the one backing up Lewis then there would have been a massive outcry,
And if Nico is underserving then it diminishes Hamilton because you have to explain why the gulf between them was not massively greater,
Reality is Hamilton is utterly brilliant but occasionally imperfect. If the WDC is close then those imperfect days cost disproportionately. Same thing could potentially happen this year slugging it down to the last point with vettel.
I think its fair to say had he enjoyed the reliability Rosberg did, he's likely to be x4 WDC. Even if he wasn't perfect all the time (Baku for example).
But, thats not what happened. Just like Keke circumstances for Rosberg prevailed. It happens.
Difficult to say either were the best driver on the grid in their WDC years - but ultimately, they won and are in the history books.
lets move on
He would have won if he'd scored more points.
He would have won if he hadn't made so many bad starts.
He would have won if he hadn't completely f
ked up in Baku. He lost. Get over it.
REALIST123 said:
As posted a month ago:
He would have won if he'd scored more points.
He would have won if he hadn't made so many bad starts.
He would have won if he hadn't completely fked up in Baku.
He lost. Get over it.
He would have won if he'd scored more points.
He would have won if he hadn't made so many bad starts.
He would have won if he hadn't completely f
ked up in Baku. He lost. Get over it.
Be nice if you could grow up a bit.
Edited by Crafty_ on Sunday 9th July 09:08
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