The Official 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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Vaud

Original Poster:

50,503 posts

155 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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RB Will said:
That's 27 years ago lol
I started watching from a young age wink

jm doc

2,791 posts

232 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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RB Will said:
Vaud said:
Then you can't have been watching F1 for long.

Senna on Prost?

etc
That's 27 years ago lol
Rosberg on Hamilton Barcelona 2016


HustleRussell

24,701 posts

160 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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RB Will said:
Vaud said:
Then you can't have been watching F1 for long.

Senna on Prost?

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That's 27 years ago lol
I was four months old hehe

sandman77

2,416 posts

138 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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JonChalk said:
Suspect FIA too scared of Ferrari to do anything meaningful.
I don't get this train of though. Surely Ferrari need F1 just as much as F1 needs Ferrari?

Derek Smith

45,661 posts

248 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Doink said:
My ideal outcome would be disqualified from Baku and a 1 race ban

Remember he's already walking a tightrope because of his rant at Mexico twice telling the world that Charlie whiting should f*** off, after vettel wrote an apology to Charlie and to the FIA Todt decided then, "on an exceptional basis", to take no disciplinary action against the four-times world champion but the FIA made clear any recurrence would trigger a summons to its International Tribunal.
Whilst I would not argue that he deserves an increase in penalty, I think that's a result that would hurt us as well as him.

I don't think that the WDC necessarily proves anything other than who got the most points and don't really rate it as a method of rewarding the best driver. However, I follow it and it has made otherwise mundane seasons more exciting. Let's not, I think, hit Vettel's points. He's done enough of that to himself already.

Punish him some other way.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Derek Smith said:
Punish him some other way.
No, its the only way that matters

TheInternet

4,717 posts

163 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Derek Smith said:
I don't think that the WDC necessarily proves anything other than who got the most points and don't really rate it as a method of rewarding the best driver.
You may not rate it but I'd wager Sebastian does.

ZX10R NIN

27,607 posts

125 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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I think they have to leave it as it stands with reprimand for SV with the points that were due to come off at Silverstone stay on until Singapore therefore leaving SB walking a tightrope.

Also they need to stop the weaving once the safety car lights are out & introduce an acceleration zone on the restarts it'll be a penalty fest at first but within two to three restarts the drivers will get it sussed.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
I think they have to leave it as it stands with reprimand for SV with the points that were due to come off at Silverstone stay on until Singapore therefore leaving SB walking a tightrope.

Also they need to stop the weaving once the safety car lights are out & introduce an acceleration zone on the restarts it'll be a penalty fest at first but within two to three restarts the drivers will get it sussed.
I'd say leave the restarts as they are, it provides entertainment, it tests reactions and race craft, it doesn't compromise safety as long as drivers drive to the conditions...

Doink

1,652 posts

147 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Derek Smith said:
Doink said:
My ideal outcome would be disqualified from Baku and a 1 race ban

Remember he's already walking a tightrope because of his rant at Mexico twice telling the world that Charlie whiting should f*** off, after vettel wrote an apology to Charlie and to the FIA Todt decided then, "on an exceptional basis", to take no disciplinary action against the four-times world champion but the FIA made clear any recurrence would trigger a summons to its International Tribunal.
Whilst I would not argue that he deserves an increase in penalty

Let's not, I think, hit Vettel's points. He's done enough of that to himself already.

Punish him some other way.
So how do you punish him then, a fine won't make one bit of difference unless it's millions, a driver awareness course maybe, that'll be the longest 4 hours of his life, hey maybe they can force him to drive a McLaren for one race



housen

2,366 posts

192 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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TheInternet said:
Derek Smith said:
I don't think that the WDC necessarily proves anything other than who got the most points and don't really rate it as a method of rewarding the best driver.
You may not rate it but I'd wager Sebastian does.
what would u rather win a race or driver of the day vote??? ....wtf

hi my names seb ive won driver of the day 5 times

or hi my names seb ive won 5 wdc

I know what id rather have

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Doink said:
hey maybe they can force him to drive a McLaren for one race
Steady on old bean, he didn't kill anyone.

Doink

1,652 posts

147 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Dear Mr Todt, please accept my apologies for.........


BrettMRC

4,092 posts

160 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Didn't the make MS run a whole series of public awareness sessions/PR stuff around road safety after the Villeneuve incident?

The FIA equivalent of community service...

Doink

1,652 posts

147 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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But first of all vettel needs to admit his mistake, admit that is was a rush of blood in the heat of the moment and for a split second he lost it, if the FIA were to drag him around the world to give speeches on road safety then at each one he should be made to admit the above and apologise again and again




























And then ban him for one race!

carl_w

9,181 posts

258 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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andy_s said:
I'd say leave the restarts as they are, it provides entertainment, it tests reactions and race craft, it doesn't compromise safety as long as drivers drive to the conditions...
I thought I'd read about a rule change that meant a standing restart from the grid after a red flag, but they restarted the race under the safety car. Did the rule change get canned?

JonChalk

6,469 posts

110 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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carl_w said:
thought I'd read about a rule change that meant a standing restart from the grid after a red flag, but they restarted the race under the safety car. Did the rule change get canned?
Next year, I thought?

Raging Bu11

128 posts

181 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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I'm sorry, but as much as I disagree with Sebs actions on the day. Isn't this sort of what makes it exciting and for the armchair supporter, good that everyone is talking about it. Yet everyone on here seems to want to be so righteous and wants to see him banned. That would kill the casual interest overnight. The best days of F1 always had a talented villain....

The penalty was handed out. If Lewis hadn't have had the issue with his cockpit protection he would have won easily. Seb would have been 5th. At the end of the day Seb got a 10 second stop go penalty. On any other track that would have cost them much more than that.

768

13,681 posts

96 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Raging Bu11 said:
Isn't this sort of what makes it exciting and for the armchair supporter, good that everyone is talking about it.
Not for me, no. It's not racing.

Even more so when my four year old is watching.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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If you remove points from Buka and avoid future race bans you get the best of all worlds. Natural justice, punishment of the offender, no blockage to future spectacle, grumpy Vettel.