The Official 2018 F1 Silly Season *Contains Speculation*

The Official 2018 F1 Silly Season *Contains Speculation*

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thegreenhell

15,357 posts

219 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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Mr Pointy said:
The head of the FIA Technical department leaves with immediate effect:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia-technical-d...

To depart that quickly is a bit odd isn't it?
Apparently heading to Renault. the other teams aren't happy...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-teams-angry-...

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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thegreenhell said:
Mr Pointy said:
The head of the FIA Technical department leaves with immediate effect:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia-technical-d...

To depart that quickly is a bit odd isn't it?
Apparently heading to Renault. the other teams aren't happy...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-teams-angry-...
Jesus wept they can be inept. Anyone who is employed by the FIA in such a sensitive technical area should have a mandatory 18 month none competition clause in their contract.

Vaud

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50,513 posts

155 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Jesus wept they can be inept. Anyone who is employed by the FIA in such a sensitive technical area should have a mandatory 18 month none competition clause in their contract.
Remember this is French law and that might be viewed as a restraint of trade. The French tend to be more protective of workers rights.

HTP99

22,556 posts

140 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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Vaud said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Jesus wept they can be inept. Anyone who is employed by the FIA in such a sensitive technical area should have a mandatory 18 month none competition clause in their contract.
Remember this is French law and that might be viewed as a restraint of trade. The French tend to be more protective of workers rights.
One of the comments mentions Swiss law and the FIA being based or having some interest Switzerland; according to the poster the limit of gardening leave in Switzerland is 3 months.

Vaud

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50,513 posts

155 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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HTP99 said:
One of the comments mentions Swiss law and the FIA being based or having some interest Switzerland; according to the poster the limit of gardening leave in Switzerland is 3 months.
FIA is mostly HQd in Paris, but I have checked and you are right, it's Swiss. I can't remember why.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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Vaud said:
FIA is mostly HQd in Paris, but I have checked and you are right, it's Swiss. I can't remember why.
Compare the corporate advantages of basing yourself in France or Switzerland and you wont need to think twice about it.

It's completely untenable to allow an FIA technical delegate who has access to every teams IP to then join one of the teams with just 3 months notice. They will have to sort this out or the transparency with the FIA from the teams will end, they could find a legal argument to bar the FIA from the development cycle on grounds of protecting their IP.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

211 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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HTP99 said:
One of the comments mentions Swiss law and the FIA being based or having some interest Switzerland; according to the poster the limit of gardening leave in Switzerland is 3 months.
I'm Swiss based and my notice period is 4 months. I have friends on 6 months so this statement isn't true.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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jsf said:
It's completely untenable to allow an FIA technical delegate who has access to every teams IP to then join one of the teams with just 3 months notice. They will have to sort this out or the transparency with the FIA from the teams will end, they could find a legal argument to bar the FIA from the development cycle on grounds of protecting their IP.
Its not as simple as that though is it - the teams approach the fia with their "ideas" so they dont waste money developing concepts only to slap them on the car one weekend then be deemed illegal by scrutineering.

It really does seem an abuse of the trust and faith teams place in the fia - even senior desingers leaving a team wont have the whoke picture about the car and future plans, and What they do have will be only one teams car not broad oversight of ALL the leading teams forthcoming ideas...

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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But without any restriction of competition, you're basically giving any FIA technical delegate a blank cheque on receiving the position.

Get the job and hire yourself out next season to the highest bidder who wants to know everyone's secrets.

It's almost the type of job you'd give to one of the boys eh?

Vaud

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50,513 posts

155 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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jsf said:
Compare the corporate advantages of basing yourself in France or Switzerland and you wont need to think twice about it..
There is a nagging reason in the back of mind why FIA, etc all have Swiss domiciles but I can’t remember. It’s not tax, must be the fondu.

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th September 2017
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Vaud said:
jsf said:
Compare the corporate advantages of basing yourself in France or Switzerland and you wont need to think twice about it..
There is a nagging reason in the back of mind why FIA, etc all have Swiss domiciles but I can’t remember. It’s not tax, must be the fondu.
Does anyone know what the current legal status of motorsport is in Switzerland?

jamiebae

6,245 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th September 2017
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Europa1 said:
Does anyone know what the current legal status of motorsport is in Switzerland?
Hill climbs are OK (but possibly going to be banned after a few accidents). There are no permanent circuits, but the law has been amended recently to allow a Formula E race to take place.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 30th September 2017
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I know this is all a bit "not likely pal" but I find a certain mr vestappens composure regarding his exit in singapore quite mystifying... almost to the point I wonder if theres negotiations going on that'd make public criticism of certain red cars or their drivers ill advised.


jbudgie

8,926 posts

212 months

Saturday 30th September 2017
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hairyben said:
I know this is all a bit "not likely pal" but I find a certain mr vestappens composure regarding his exit in singapore quite mystifying... almost to the point I wonder if theres negotiations going on that'd make public criticism of certain red cars or their drivers ill advised.
yes, he was unnaturally quiet about it.

S0 What

3,358 posts

172 months

Saturday 30th September 2017
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jbudgie said:
hairyben said:
I know this is all a bit "not likely pal" but I find a certain mr vestappens composure regarding his exit in singapore quite mystifying... almost to the point I wonder if theres negotiations going on that'd make public criticism of certain red cars or their drivers ill advised.
yes, he was unnaturally quiet about it.
TBH i thought all 3 were very quiet on the matter, as though somone had given (at least 2 of them) a quiet talking to or as you say but there's deffo somthing keeping them from taking more digs at each other?
though TBH i allways get the impression Kimi doesn't have mutch time for seb? not that he has much time for anyone to be fair laugh

Vaud

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50,513 posts

155 months

Saturday 30th September 2017
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S0 What said:
though TBH i allways get the impression Kimi doesn't have mutch time for seb? not that he has much time for anyone to be fair laugh
Whilst racing, does any (current or former) WDC driver have time for another? Just competitors?

paua

5,734 posts

143 months

Sunday 1st October 2017
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Moss revered Fangio, Stewart still speaks of Cevert in glowing terms. Ickx speaks very highly of Amon. Just 3 off the top of my head. There will be others

CanAm

9,211 posts

272 months

Sunday 1st October 2017
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andburg said:
you'd have to expect he'd command one hell of a salary given all of the ideas he will have seen and judged.

Wonder what the restrictive covenants in an FIA contract look like!
This makes Stepneygate look like a storm in a teacup.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 1st October 2017
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$100 million to each team from the FIA should just about cover the loss in IP.

cuprabob

14,633 posts

214 months

Sunday 1st October 2017
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Vaud said:
S0 What said:
though TBH i allways get the impression Kimi doesn't have mutch time for seb? not that he has much time for anyone to be fair laugh
Whilst racing, does any (current or former) WDC driver have time for another? Just competitors?
Hill, Clark and Stewart were great friends and rivals. Different times though.