The Official 2018 F1 Silly Season *Contains Speculation*

The Official 2018 F1 Silly Season *Contains Speculation*

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groomi

9,317 posts

244 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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Or Jean-Eric Vergne?

thegreenhell

15,453 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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Pastor Maldonado biggrin

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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Brendon Hartley, pity he is tall, he is a great peddler.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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thegreenhell said:
Motorsport.com are reporting that Mercedes are trying to place Wehrlein there, in spite of the age issue.
That makes great sense. Money talks and Williams appear to be happy to accept that. This wouldn't be happening when FW was at the height of his powers. Such a shame.



HustleRussell

24,744 posts

161 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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rubystone said:
thegreenhell said:
Motorsport.com are reporting that Mercedes are trying to place Wehrlein there, in spite of the age issue.
That makes great sense. Money talks and Williams appear to be happy to accept that. This wouldn't be happening when FW was at the height of his powers. Such a shame.
Do you not think that there's a good chance that Wehrlein is as good or better than Massa, Di Resta or Kubica (if he's not 100% fit)?

Joe Saward suggested this might be an option in last week's podcast. He seemed to think Wehrlein was the best option if it's doable. I tend to agree.

Edited by HustleRussell on Wednesday 4th October 08:00

DanielSan

18,821 posts

168 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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How old is Andre Lotterer? May aswell give him a chance in an F1 car given the choices Williams have got, he's raced in Super Formula so he's used to the aero performance near enough, was bloody fast in the Audi so he's got hybrid experience of sorts and an ability to make tyres last. Plus he hasn't got a lot to do now Audi are out of the WEC, certainly nothing that's not easily droppable for an F1 drive anyway.

HustleRussell

24,744 posts

161 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Actually Wehrlein is probably out of a drive for 2018 since Ferrari is trying to put Leclerc and Giovanazzi in at Sauber. I think he deserves a spot on the grid.

RobGT81

5,229 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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DanielSan said:
How old is Andre Lotterer? May aswell give him a chance in an F1 car given the choices Williams have got, he's raced in Super Formula so he's used to the aero performance near enough, was bloody fast in the Audi so he's got hybrid experience of sorts and an ability to make tyres last. Plus he hasn't got a lot to do now Audi are out of the WEC, certainly nothing that's not easily droppable for an F1 drive anyway.
This is who I would be looking at. Amazed he hasn't had more of a chance. He wasn't very complimentary about F1 when he had a go in the Caterham though.

I'm not sure Hartley has a super license? Has he enough points with the WEC now?

suffolk009

5,441 posts

166 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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I'd have Lotterer on my shortlist.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
fk me people are suggesting Button? rofl The perennial nice guy (in front of the cameras) who achieved nothing more than a fluke win over Barricello?

Rosberg. All. Day. Long.

Whether they can get him is another thing, but regardless they should be begging his team and offering him the world to come back.
Button and Rosberg will not be back in F1.

Your statement about Button however is laughable.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Williams need two drivers IMO.

Get rid of Stroll and Massa but Williams are a sell out and will take money over talent which is a real shame.

Williams should be looking at the following

Charles Leclerc "very much doubt Williams would get him" frown

Robert Kubica would be way ahead of any other driver available even with his disability.

Wehrlein is a talent and could be available considering the engine in the rear of the Williams.





Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 4th October 11:43

Vaud

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50,644 posts

156 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Button and Rosberg will not be back in F1.

Your statement about Button however is laughable.
Button. Meh. Probably heresy on a predominantly UK forum. Ditto when people say anything about Hill.

Button was in the right place and right time, and a very nice guy, but it was a huge chunk of luck. Even Ross commented that he was a bit flaky at times and he had him in 2009 as Button/Barrichello had nowhere else to go, but nor did Ross have any choice.

I think it is telling that Mercedes didn't retain him; they had the financial ability to do so.

CanAm

9,261 posts

273 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Sorry, what am I missing here about the 25 year old requirement?

cuprabob

14,713 posts

215 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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CanAm said:
Sorry, what am I missing here about the 25 year old requirement?
It's a requirement of Martini Sponsorship.

thegreenhell

15,453 posts

220 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Vaud said:
I think it is telling that Mercedes didn't retain him; they had the financial ability to do so.
I'm sure I read that Mercedes did offer him a contract for 2010 onwards, but McLaren offered him a lot more money to drive for them. Apparently McLaren were surprised when Button approached them about driving for them, and quickly signed him.

Mercedes had already signed Rosberg to replace Barrichello, so bringing MS out of retirement was a bit last-minute after JB left.

Vaud

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50,644 posts

156 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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cuprabob said:
CanAm said:
Sorry, what am I missing here about the 25 year old requirement?
It's a requirement of Martini Sponsorship.
Isn't it down to some of their key markets - that don't allow <25 year olds in alcohol advertising?

CraigyMc

16,442 posts

237 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Vaud said:
cuprabob said:
CanAm said:
Sorry, what am I missing here about the 25 year old requirement?
It's a requirement of Martini Sponsorship.
Isn't it down to some of their key markets - that don't allow <25 year olds in alcohol advertising?
Yeah.

The UK is one of them with regards to TV advertising.
Refer:

BCAP Code rules said:
19.17 Alcohol advertisements must not feature in a significant role anyone who is, or seems to be, under 25 and must not feature children.
An exception is made for advertisements that feature families socialising responsibly. Here, children may be included but they should have an incidental role only and anyone who seems to be under the age of 25 must be obviously not drinking alcohol.
Guidance
It is important that anyone featured in alcohol advertising not only is at least 25 years old but also must seem to be obviously over 25.
No-one, be they 25 or older, may behave in an immature, adolescent or childish manner. (see also 19.15 and 19.16)
The exception allows children to appear, in minor roles, in alcoholic drinks advertisements (as they can in, for example, advertisements for restaurants in which adults may be drinking with a meal). Those situations are likely to be either family meals at home or in a restaurant or responsible parties for over 25s.
Incidental flashbacks to youth may be used provided they adhere to the conditions set out above and, in particular, provided they are an inconsequential element of the advertising.
ASA rules here https://www.asa.org.uk/asset/A16332A3-5F4F-44F3-99...

DanielSan

18,821 posts

168 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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RobGT81 said:
This is who I would be looking at. Amazed he hasn't had more of a chance. He wasn't very complimentary about F1 when he had a go in the Caterham though.

I'm not sure Hartley has a super license? Has he enough points with the WEC now?
I'd imagine it's hard to be complimentary about F1 after driving the Caterham to be fair

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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DanielSan said:
RobGT81 said:
This is who I would be looking at. Amazed he hasn't had more of a chance. He wasn't very complimentary about F1 when he had a go in the Caterham though.

I'm not sure Hartley has a super license? Has he enough points with the WEC now?
I'd imagine it's hard to be complimentary about F1 after driving the Caterham to be fair
Brendon has enough points, full list for this year is in this article http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/01/23/38-drivers-e...

Lotterer is getting on a bit now.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

212 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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RobGT81 said:
DanielSan said:
How old is Andre Lotterer? May aswell give him a chance in an F1 car given the choices Williams have got, he's raced in Super Formula so he's used to the aero performance near enough, was bloody fast in the Audi so he's got hybrid experience of sorts and an ability to make tyres last. Plus he hasn't got a lot to do now Audi are out of the WEC, certainly nothing that's not easily droppable for an F1 drive anyway.
This is who I would be looking at. Amazed he hasn't had more of a chance. He wasn't very complimentary about F1 when he had a go in the Caterham though.

I'm not sure Hartley has a super license? Has he enough points with the WEC now?
He's a Porsche factory driver, has a Formula E drive and I believe will continue in Super Formula as well as doing some GT stuff for Porsche. I'd have him very high on my shortlist too though, but I guess there must be something else blocking it.