The Official 2018 F1 Silly Season *Contains Speculation*

The Official 2018 F1 Silly Season *Contains Speculation*

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Trevatanus

11,123 posts

150 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
M3ax said:
IMO Massa is underrated. The records never show those that were almost world champs. Granted that he was not at his best in the wet but he delivered some great drives.
If Massa had not had that terrible head injury he would have been a Word Champion.
Was he good at Scrabble?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Kvyat is probably the most sensible choice if they want a quick driver who has experience.

He is clearly very quick, but his head suffered in the last 2 years of Red Bull / Torro Rosso, he might excel with less pressure at Williams.

If you remember how young he is, he could be a good option to build around if he can get over the pressure issues. I think he is at least as quick as Bottas.

rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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jsf said:
Kvyat is probably the most sensible choice if they want a quick driver who has experience.

He is clearly very quick, but his head suffered in the last 2 years of Red Bull / Torro Rosso, he might excel with less pressure at Williams.

If you remember how young he is, he could be a good option to build around if he can get over the pressure issues. I think he is at least as quick as Bottas.

I totally agree. He’s a very fast driver who needs nurturing, not destroying as Red Bull did. I’m pretty sure the Frank Williams of even 5 years ago would have gambled in him.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
M3ax said:
IMO Massa is underrated. The records never show those that were almost world champs. Granted that he was not at his best in the wet but he delivered some great drives.
If Massa had not had that terrible head injury he would have been a Word Champion.
I certainly think we have seen a different FM since that accident

Vaud

Original Poster:

50,509 posts

155 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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liner33 said:
I certainly think we have seen a different FM since that accident
I agree. Lost none of his passion, but maybe that key extra undefined 1%; a bit like Kimi and Schumacher when they returned from sabbatical / retirement. Still moments of brilliance but no longer the leader.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Vaud said:
I agree. Lost none of his passion, but maybe that key extra undefined 1%; a bit like Kimi and Schumacher when they returned from sabbatical / retirement. Still moments of brilliance but no longer the leader.
Exactly.

beer

rdjohn

6,180 posts

195 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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rdjohn said:
I think Stroll and Sirotkin pairing is pretty desperate.

2016, they had Bottas and Massa. Effectively they then surrendered Bottas for cash and acquired Stoll’s cash who could then be mentored by Massa, plus Massa met certain Martini marketing necessities.

I think it was time to replace Massa with someone who could maybe score more points while mentoring Stroll. So now they appoint a second F1 rookie. At least Stroll senior will be able to quickly judge if he is blowing cash on his son’s F1 career.

Paddy Lowe needs to pull a good chassis design out of the hat for 2018, that can easily be exploited by a rookie. They are going to be swamped by McLaren and Renault finally finding form next year. If Honda finally get their act together, then TR could be a threat and in racecraft I think the Haas guys will have their measure.

This pairing has all the qualities of the sort that Catetham and Manor used to put together out of desperate necessity, but then they were only racing $50million chassis with small team support.

Williams might as well hang out their “For Sale” sign at a price less than Force India want.
This seems to confirm what most of us were thinking.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/massa-says-will...

Williams GP are bereft of ideas and cash

Vaud

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50,509 posts

155 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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rdjohn said:
Williams GP are bereft of ideas and cash
They aren't but they are probably mutually exclusive once you are publicly listed?

Norfolkit

2,394 posts

190 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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thebigmacmoomin said:
What drivers are out there at the moment that could be capable of being the driver Williams need for points scoring & Lance Stroll mentoring?

Kubica & Di Resta I would say no as there F1 experience isnt in the F1 hybrid era. Kyvat would be that logical option but not sure if he is good enough to be in F1.
I'd be a damn sight more sure about Kvyat than Sirotkin.

Vaud

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50,509 posts

155 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Norfolkit said:
I'd be a damn sight more sure about Kvyat than Sirotkin.
Marko was big fan of Kvyat but he "lost his speed"

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/133576/marko-kvy...

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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I have a very low opinion of Helmut Marko and dont regard what he says most of the time

This article indicates to me that Sirotkin has been told to come up with more money if he wants to join the team and has been given time to do that

http://www.planetf1.com/news/billionaire-pushing-h...

Vaud

Original Poster:

50,509 posts

155 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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liner33 said:
I have a very low opinion of Helmut Marko and dont regard what he says most of the time
Why, out of interest?

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Vaud said:
Why, out of interest?
Reading Mark Webbers book

Comments he made about Danny Ric this year despite claiming him to be the best driver in F1 in 2016

He likes to run his mouth too much imo

HighwayStar

4,259 posts

144 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Max finally admits he was wrong....
https://www.verstappen.nl/en/article/3142/