Sebastian Vettel

Sebastian Vettel

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Angpozzuto

963 posts

109 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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I'd say Alonso was (is?) a better racer than vettel, but who would I prefer to have as part of a team? That would be vettel for me, he seems to be better for team development and harmony

kambites

67,571 posts

221 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Angpozzuto said:
I'd say Alonso was (is?) a better racer than vettel, but who would I prefer to have as part of a team? That would be vettel for me, he seems to be better for team development and harmony
Better for team harmony than Alonso? Now there's damning with faint praise. smile

I'm fascinated to know his salary. That'd go some way to telling us who courted whom.

CoolHands

18,633 posts

195 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Maybe alonso’s more likely to drag some faint results out of the car than VET

Durzel

12,270 posts

168 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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I wonder what this all means for Vettel in terms of him being an ambassador for Ferrari afterwards? Seems like both parties want a clean break. Strange how it seems to have gone sour so quickly, and I'm surprised there was no negotiation on a new contract (I have no reason to believe Vettel would lie about that).

TheDeuce

21,551 posts

66 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Durzel said:
I wonder what this all means for Vettel in terms of him being an ambassador for Ferrari afterwards? Seems like both parties want a clean break. Strange how it seems to have gone sour so quickly, and I'm surprised there was no negotiation on a new contract (I have no reason to believe Vettel would lie about that).
Was that ever a rumour? Or just a nice idea someone shared a while back?

I'd love to see him remain in some capacity, although I'm sure he'd take a year out to allow a period of adjustment first. If he were to take on an ambassadorial role, or non-exec chair role AKA Niki, I see no reason why it would need to be at Ferrari specifically. Multi-lingual (ish) 4 times WDC with a good mechanical understanding of the cars...? He could fit in most teams if his driver career loyalties are dismissed.

glazbagun

14,280 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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I'm not sure what an ex-F1 driver can really do for a team that others can't.

Lauda seems to have had an impact on Mercedes but he ran his own airline during his hiatus. Prost was an all-time-great level driver who never seemed to elevate Ligier or Renault. Stewart started an F1 team which (I think) made him money, but had been running in lower formula for years beforehand. Nico is surely as multitalented as Vettel, but seems to just be a pundit.

In fact punditry seems to be main followup career of F1 drivers still in F1. The rest seem to keep racing in lower paid formula.

ajprice

27,483 posts

196 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Vettel has said a few times that he got into racing before he could do mechanical engineering at university, and it's something he wants to go back to after his driving career.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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glazbagun said:
I'm not sure what an ex-F1 driver can really do for a team that others can't.
Shake hands and get more money out of supporters, fans and sponsors. The whole reason Marlboro still pay for the drivers at Ferrari, why McLaren continually used washed up champions up until recently and why the whole paddock club exists.

Ferrari get their drivers to do a huge amount of work outside of the car on a race weekend. Buy a couple of cars off them and you're likely to be invited to your country's grand prix at their expense, have dinner with the drivers, Q&A sessions after qualifying etc.

Spend a couple of hundred thousand each year with DHL and you'll get the same.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

83 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Such an obvious choice for racing point except the 2nd driver is the bosses son and the main driver is probably better than vettel.

scrw.

2,618 posts

190 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Wonder how may drivers are worried they will get canned for next season now to allow Seb a seat?

Smollet

10,574 posts

190 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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scrw. said:
Wonder how may drivers are worried they will get canned for next season now to allow Seb a seat?
Kimi?

ajprice

27,483 posts

196 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Smollet said:
scrw. said:
Wonder how may drivers are worried they will get canned for next season now to allow Seb a seat?
Kimi?
A Marc Priestley video mentioned Kubica being in FP1 this weekend, possibly to warm him up for the Alfa drive so they can move Giovanazzi to Ferrari for the remaining races if Seb walks/gets pushed before the season is out. 8:25 in the video https://youtu.be/15xYdMkuuXE

Edited by ajprice on Wednesday 8th July 13:31

Horace Van Khute

708 posts

54 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Can we stop trying to find a seat for Vettel please? There's so much talent outthere that it'd be a shame to waste a seat on someone who has proven to be average when not in a dominant car and on pole position.

Let the guy start another youtube channel and compete with Rosberg on how many for sures they can squeeze into 10 mins of content.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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scrw. said:
Wonder how may drivers are worried they will get canned for next season now to allow Seb a seat?
0 + 0 x 0 with added 0

He's done.

HTP99

22,552 posts

140 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Horace Van Khute said:
Can we stop trying to find a seat for Vettel please? There's so much talent outthere that it'd be a shame to waste a seat on someone who has proven to be average when not in a dominant car and on pole position.

Let the guy start another youtube channel and compete with Rosberg on how many for sures they can squeeze into 10 mins of content.
Very much this, he is finished.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Fundoreen said:
Such an obvious choice for racing point except the 2nd driver is the bosses son and the main driver is probably better than vettel.
Suddenly everyone is better than Vettel LOL

thegreenhell

15,345 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Fundoreen said:
Such an obvious choice for racing point except the 2nd driver is the bosses son and the main driver is probably better than vettel.
The main driver has a long contract and brings a lot of sponsorship to the team. It would be an expensive swap for them to make.

vdn

8,911 posts

203 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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HTP99 said:
Horace Van Khute said:
Can we stop trying to find a seat for Vettel please? There's so much talent outthere that it'd be a shame to waste a seat on someone who has proven to be average when not in a dominant car and on pole position.

Let the guy start another youtube channel and compete with Rosberg on how many for sures they can squeeze into 10 mins of content.
Very much this, he is finished.
Ferrari have managed to ruin another talent! Although he of course had a hand in it himself.

Frimley111R

15,663 posts

234 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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vdn said:
HTP99 said:
Horace Van Khute said:
Can we stop trying to find a seat for Vettel please? There's so much talent outthere that it'd be a shame to waste a seat on someone who has proven to be average when not in a dominant car and on pole position.

Let the guy start another youtube channel and compete with Rosberg on how many for sures they can squeeze into 10 mins of content.
Very much this, he is finished.
Ferrari have managed to ruin another talent! Although he of course had a hand in it himself.
I don't know what Ferrari did wrong. Vettel simply made too many mistakes and had his chance.

vaud

50,497 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Frimley111R said:
I don't know what Ferrari did wrong. Vettel simply made too many mistakes and had his chance.
Well last year they took a risk, cheated, have had the engine power pulled back, so that hampered his post summer season last year... and now the start of this season - possibly the next 18 months.