Sebastian Vettel
Discussion
Blue62 said:
Vettel has been poor under pressure at key moments, but I'm not sure any other drivers out there would do any better against Hamilton at the moment. I am not his greatest fan, but I reckon objectively Hamilton is up there with the very best now, which for me is Clark and Senna.
Vettel does have 4 WDC but IMO he is poor when it comes to defending or attacking. He was the same when at Red Bull during their dominant years. Fast when out front or the car has a big advantage.But he is certainly not a Hamilton or Alonso. Verstappen is getting very close but we have not seen him in a title situation so it's hard to judge. Ricciardo as well has not had a car to challenge the Mercedes.
Vettel has stated he is not leaving at the end of this season. I am just not sure if I believe that especially after Canada. He completely lost it. Again another massive hit to his self-confidence.
Jenson Button reviews his 2011 Canadian Grand Prix victory!
Great to see again but just a reminder that even in 2011 Vettel shows his weakness when under pressure. It has always been there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9zX8-KSn8E
Great to see again but just a reminder that even in 2011 Vettel shows his weakness when under pressure. It has always been there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9zX8-KSn8E
Derek Smith said:
Ch4 played an interesting series of radio messages between Ferrari and Vettel in qually yesterday. It can be difficult to accurately assess tone with people whose first language is not English, and the Italian accent in English can sound a little harsh, but it does seem that he's no longer the blue-eyed boy.
More and more Vettel is doing something that never goes down well with Ferrari- he's blaming the car and saying it's not good enough, saying the updates don't work and so on. This public behaviour works (for a while) if your own driving is impeccable, however we know it isn't. Vettel will become more intransigent in thinking it's the car and Ferrari more impatient with him saying so publicly. Unless there's a turnaround by one or both, the relationship is doomed to fail, and relatively soon.
Muzzer79 said:
Why?
What good does a one year deal do you?
He has to come in, get to know the team again, get back in the mix after a year away.
He's a good driver but he'll be pushing 40, having spent a year on the sidelines. If it doesn't work out, after a year he's gone and you've wasted another year (and a hefty salary)
If you want someone to replace Vettel they'll be just as available now as in a year's time. OK, if you want Hamilton, you have to buy him out of the last year of his contract but they're more likely to go for Verstappen as he's young and there's (allegedly)
s in his contract.
Alonso is one of the very few drivers who can make a bad car competitive. What good does a one year deal do you?
He has to come in, get to know the team again, get back in the mix after a year away.
He's a good driver but he'll be pushing 40, having spent a year on the sidelines. If it doesn't work out, after a year he's gone and you've wasted another year (and a hefty salary)
If you want someone to replace Vettel they'll be just as available now as in a year's time. OK, if you want Hamilton, you have to buy him out of the last year of his contract but they're more likely to go for Verstappen as he's young and there's (allegedly)
s in his contract.He would easily do a much better job than Vettel who keeps chocking.
Hopefully, we see him in the Ferrari in 2020.
slipstream 1985 said:
As Ferrari I would take Riccardo and just lay down the law whoever qualifies better is number 1 for the weekend. Full on team orders for the race if they get close.
This is the only way it would work with LeClerc and Ricciardo. If the Ferrari was better it would be a massive challenge to Mercedes with that pairing.HTP99 said:
You and me both, I agree he's a great driver but he's yesterday's man now, there are plenty out there who will perform well in the Ferrari but won't have the baggage.
I'd get Ricciardo in there, he's experienced, proven and mature and won't rock the boat; (genuine) equal status with Leclerc, but no funny business, until the results dictate a direction and let the team mangemant take it from there.
Not according to Hamilton. Ok Hamilton's father I'd get Ricciardo in there, he's experienced, proven and mature and won't rock the boat; (genuine) equal status with Leclerc, but no funny business, until the results dictate a direction and let the team mangemant take it from there.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/41431/lewis-hamilto...
CustardOnChips said:
I could see Bottas going to Ferrari to be an experienced wing man for LeClerc. With Ocon getting the Merc seat.
I just don't get why people think Ocon is something special.Perez got the better of him in 2018 which say a lot.
Bottas is doing a great job as a number 2 driver and even challenging Lewis at times. Ocon would be a step in the wrong direction.
Patch1875 said:
On Teds notebook he mentioned that Vettel was struggling to adapt to the set up of this years car especially the rear while CLC style suited it better.
I would imagine it could also be down to the Ferrari and this year's tyres.It was mentioned on a number of occasions that the Haas team is basically a Ferrari B team and look at how they are struggling in 2019.
Maybe wrong but this is my view.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 19th July 15:10
Bradgate said:
I wonder if Vettel will ‘retire’, i.e. jump before he is pushed at the end of the season?
When Ferrari are paying their alleged number one driver €2m per race, giving him the fastest car and he still can’t stick it on the podium, they have a big problem...
I can't see the Ferrari fans alone wanting Vettel to stay.When Ferrari are paying their alleged number one driver €2m per race, giving him the fastest car and he still can’t stick it on the podium, they have a big problem...
It was clear at the start of the season who the number one driver was at Ferrari and now it's his young teammate who has taken the first win for Ferrari in 2019.
Leclerc really should have taken at least two wins this season without a car issue and also being taken by Verstappen but now with his first win under his belt, I could see him just moving up another level in confidence.
Monza should be a Ferrari track again. Vettel really needs to stick his car on pole and win.
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