Max Verstappen
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Lee Stevenson, Verstappen's chief mechanic, has left the team with immediate effect, his new job will be at 'the other end of the pit lane' https://www.motorsportweek.com/2024/03/29/verstapp...
ajprice said:
Lee Stevenson, Verstappen's chief mechanic, has left the team with immediate effect, his new job will be at 'the other end of the pit lane' https://www.motorsportweek.com/2024/03/29/verstapp...
Just to rein this in as your context is a little dramatic. It wasn’t with immediate effect. A planned transition working through a notice period before moving on. Pretty normal stuff.Has Max possibly renegotiated his contract very recently? Helmut made some unusual remarks about Max going skiing this week, something his current until 2028 contract is known to disallow. When pushed about this contradiction Helmut said 'ive already said too much' and no further comment etc.
Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
TheDeuce said:
Has Max possibly renegotiated his contract very recently? Helmut made some unusual remarks about Max going skiing this week, something his current until 2028 contract is known to disallow. When pushed about this contradiction Helmut said 'ive already said too much' and no further comment etc.
Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
Perhaps he just wanted to go spend time away from the circus. Reading your post, I think you can see why?Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
TheDeuce said:
Has Max possibly renegotiated his contract very recently? Helmut made some unusual remarks about Max going skiing this week, something his current until 2028 contract is known to disallow. When pushed about this contradiction Helmut said 'ive already said too much' and no further comment etc.
Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
I always find it amazing that Mercedes let Lewis go skydiving, I can just imagine how that conversation between driver and team manager went down. Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
That said, skiing and horse riding are just about the two most dangerous activities someone can undertake, in terms of the likleyhood of ending up seriously injured - in recent years we’ve also had Stroll who fell off his bike, and Wherlein who crashed a buggy in the Race of Champions, plus a few illnesses and F1 injuries that caused drivers to be absent.
One gets the feeling that, behind the scenes, Marko and Horny are barely on speaking terms, leading to MV ending up on a ski slope and neither of them able or willing to do much about it.
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
Has Max possibly renegotiated his contract very recently? Helmut made some unusual remarks about Max going skiing this week, something his current until 2028 contract is known to disallow. When pushed about this contradiction Helmut said 'ive already said too much' and no further comment etc.
Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
Perhaps he just wanted to go spend time away from the circus. Reading your post, I think you can see why?Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
TheDeuce said:
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
Has Max possibly renegotiated his contract very recently? Helmut made some unusual remarks about Max going skiing this week, something his current until 2028 contract is known to disallow. When pushed about this contradiction Helmut said 'ive already said too much' and no further comment etc.
Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
Perhaps he just wanted to go spend time away from the circus. Reading your post, I think you can see why?Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
Max said:
Im going skiing ...........And anyway if anything happens like I break a leg that's no big deal I can miss 5 races and still come back to win the championship
Purosangue said:
TheDeuce said:
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
Has Max possibly renegotiated his contract very recently? Helmut made some unusual remarks about Max going skiing this week, something his current until 2028 contract is known to disallow. When pushed about this contradiction Helmut said 'ive already said too much' and no further comment etc.
Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
Perhaps he just wanted to go spend time away from the circus. Reading your post, I think you can see why?Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
Max said:
Im going skiing ...........And anyway if anything happens like I break a leg that's no big deal I can miss 5 races and still come back to win the championship
He'd forfeit a chunk of his salary for the season - or whatever the terms dictate if he breaks a clause and in a way that then prevents him from racing. He's almost certainly won this season even if he were to miss those 5 GP's, but that's not the point - a big part of his value is the viewership and sponsors he attracts to the sport.TheDeuce said:
Purosangue said:
TheDeuce said:
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
Has Max possibly renegotiated his contract very recently? Helmut made some unusual remarks about Max going skiing this week, something his current until 2028 contract is known to disallow. When pushed about this contradiction Helmut said 'ive already said too much' and no further comment etc.
Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
Perhaps he just wanted to go spend time away from the circus. Reading your post, I think you can see why?Is it possible that whatever is going on at Red Bull opened up a path for Max to renegotiate a contract more on his own terms? It's certainly possible given that the terms of the old contract may conflict with any intended restructuring of the team and key people, which if so could nuke the existing contract and open up terms for a new negotiation. Or perhaps the team invited a new contract to better accommodate any changes/departures that 'could' be on the cards.
But one way or another the driver they really don't want to lose is suddenly allowed to go skiing and Helmut seems keen to make comment about that fact.. the suggestion being that something has happened contractually..?
Max said:
Im going skiing ...........And anyway if anything happens like I break a leg that's no big deal I can miss 5 races and still come back to win the championship
He'd forfeit a chunk of his salary for the season - or whatever the terms dictate if he breaks a clause and in a way that then prevents him from racing. He's almost certainly won this season even if he were to miss those 5 GP's, but that's not the point - a big part of his value is the viewership and sponsors he attracts to the sport. Max said:
its ok , RB removed my clauses to keep me happy , they are happy to have Lawson fill in if necessary as long as they win CC is all they are interested in ........
TheDeuce said:
He'd forfeit a chunk of his salary for the season - or whatever the terms dictate if he breaks a clause and in a way that then prevents him from racing. He's almost certainly won this season even if he were to miss those 5 GP's, but that's not the point - a big part of his value is the viewership and sponsors he attracts to the sport.
2024, Max went on a skiing trip. Nobody broke anything, but PH is very cross 
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
He'd forfeit a chunk of his salary for the season - or whatever the terms dictate if he breaks a clause and in a way that then prevents him from racing. He's almost certainly won this season even if he were to miss those 5 GP's, but that's not the point - a big part of his value is the viewership and sponsors he attracts to the sport.
2024, Max went on a skiing trip. Nobody broke anything, but PH is very cross No one is cross and no one cares if he went skiing. The question was about whether the fact he did, suggests the terms of his contract may have been revised. That would be quite relevant when discussing Max given everything else that is going on around him right now.
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
He'd forfeit a chunk of his salary for the season - or whatever the terms dictate if he breaks a clause and in a way that then prevents him from racing. He's almost certainly won this season even if he were to miss those 5 GP's, but that's not the point - a big part of his value is the viewership and sponsors he attracts to the sport.
2024, Max went on a skiing trip. Nobody broke anything, but PH is very cross Deesee said:
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
He'd forfeit a chunk of his salary for the season - or whatever the terms dictate if he breaks a clause and in a way that then prevents him from racing. He's almost certainly won this season even if he were to miss those 5 GP's, but that's not the point - a big part of his value is the viewership and sponsors he attracts to the sport.
2024, Max went on a skiing trip. Nobody broke anything, but PH is very cross 
Purosangue said:
Deesee said:
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
He'd forfeit a chunk of his salary for the season - or whatever the terms dictate if he breaks a clause and in a way that then prevents him from racing. He's almost certainly won this season even if he were to miss those 5 GP's, but that's not the point - a big part of his value is the viewership and sponsors he attracts to the sport.
2024, Max went on a skiing trip. Nobody broke anything, but PH is very cross 
Deesee said:
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
He'd forfeit a chunk of his salary for the season - or whatever the terms dictate if he breaks a clause and in a way that then prevents him from racing. He's almost certainly won this season even if he were to miss those 5 GP's, but that's not the point - a big part of his value is the viewership and sponsors he attracts to the sport.
2024, Max went on a skiing trip. Nobody broke anything, but PH is very cross For whatever reason, Max is (or was..) not allowed to do anything like that - he's stated as much previously, and that contract was until 2028.
Getting away from his skiing break, which really isn't interesting I agree, that does suggest his contract has been revisited does it not?
TheDeuce said:
Hamiltons has that in his contract, in fact he appears to have a contract that allows just about anything.
For whatever reason, Max is (or was..) not allowed to do anything like that - he's stated as much previously, and that contract was until 2028.
Getting away from his skiing break, which really isn't interesting I agree, that does suggest his contract has been revisited does it not?
What are they going to do, promote checo? For whatever reason, Max is (or was..) not allowed to do anything like that - he's stated as much previously, and that contract was until 2028.
Getting away from his skiing break, which really isn't interesting I agree, that does suggest his contract has been revisited does it not?
Max can do as he pleases..Deesee said:
TheDeuce said:
Hamiltons has that in his contract, in fact he appears to have a contract that allows just about anything.
For whatever reason, Max is (or was..) not allowed to do anything like that - he's stated as much previously, and that contract was until 2028.
Getting away from his skiing break, which really isn't interesting I agree, that does suggest his contract has been revisited does it not?
What are they going to do, promote checo? For whatever reason, Max is (or was..) not allowed to do anything like that - he's stated as much previously, and that contract was until 2028.
Getting away from his skiing break, which really isn't interesting I agree, that does suggest his contract has been revisited does it not?
Max can do as he pleases..He would lose out financially if he broke such terms - but beyond that it's a matter of professionalism to not agree terms of service with a team and then not keep your end of the bargain. I doubt he would have gone skiing and discussed it publicly if it were still disallowed by his contract, and his contract wasn't due to be renewed anytime soon.
TheDeuce said:
What do you mean? Why would they need to promote anyone - Max can break the terms of his contract and continue his position.
He would lose out financially if he broke such terms - but beyond that it's a matter of professionalism to not agree terms of service with a team and then not keep your end of the bargain. I doubt he would have gone skiing and discussed it publicly if it were still disallowed by his contract, and his contract wasn't due to be renewed anytime soon.
I think you’re the only one who is really bothered. Clearly there’s no issue. Weren’t you one of the critics of Helmet of Guff, now you’re hanging onto a throwaway line? It’s just a circus….and Liberty (and their clusterfuxx cloud) must be wetting themselves at the clicks and posts He would lose out financially if he broke such terms - but beyond that it's a matter of professionalism to not agree terms of service with a team and then not keep your end of the bargain. I doubt he would have gone skiing and discussed it publicly if it were still disallowed by his contract, and his contract wasn't due to be renewed anytime soon.
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