Silverstone (again) set to terminate British GP contract.
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Dr Z said:
Welshbeef said:
Vaud said:
Evangelion said:
I'm hoping some clever person can tell me how long it is.
About 1.7 miles plus the hairpin section, so ~1.9 miles.
Here's my effort:
Added the uphill blast to Westfield Ave.
4.22 km of no overtaking goodness. Tilke would be proud!
https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/15301
p1stonhead said:
My idea 5th post page 1, I claim the fee 
Motorsport week said:
"The founders of London GP have been developing plans to host a Formula One race on the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park for over 12 months," read a statement
Now they say it.Here is my idea, using an existing London venue:
Using a variation of the 750kg rules:
"....3-liter supercharged formula, based on a sliding scale of weight (from 400 to 850 kg) in relation to capacity. The weight led effectively to 3-liter S/C (supercharged) cars or 4.5-liter U/S (unsupercharged) cars with a minimum weight of 850 kg - 1873 lb. The weight included tires, transmission- and differential oil but not cooling water, engine oil, fuel, tools and spare wheels. Relation of supercharged to unsupercharged engine was 1:1.5. Free choice of fuels; minimum race distance 500 km - 312 mi...."
V16 supercharged engines are OK. As would twin engined Italian cars...
Using a variation of the 750kg rules:
"....3-liter supercharged formula, based on a sliding scale of weight (from 400 to 850 kg) in relation to capacity. The weight led effectively to 3-liter S/C (supercharged) cars or 4.5-liter U/S (unsupercharged) cars with a minimum weight of 850 kg - 1873 lb. The weight included tires, transmission- and differential oil but not cooling water, engine oil, fuel, tools and spare wheels. Relation of supercharged to unsupercharged engine was 1:1.5. Free choice of fuels; minimum race distance 500 km - 312 mi...."
V16 supercharged engines are OK. As would twin engined Italian cars...
An interesting article from yesterday in the Times......
An offer by Formula One owner Liberty Media to take over the running of the British Grand Prix will be rejected by Silverstone.
The American media giant, which bought F1 for £6 billion (S$10.7 billion) last year, has found itself embroiled in the traditional summer sport of keeping the British race on the calendar, with the Silverstone owner insisting on a new deal.
The British Racing Drivers' Club (BRDC), which owns the circuit, last week exercised a break clause in its 17-year deal to run the race until 2026, citing losses of £7.6 million in the past two years.
Liberty, frustrated at the BRDC's decision to do so in the build-up to yesterday's race, has offered to run the event for five years if it is given the circuit free for three weeks.
It might even be prepared to wipe out the race debts, but the BRDC is expected to decline Liberty's offer as it says it would lose £20,000 a day under the arrangement.
However, the gamble of using the break clause could backfire if Liberty does not turn out to be as sympathetic to the Silverstone cause as the BRDC believes.
Liberty chief executive Chase Carey said that European races were very important to the F1 story and that Liberty would work with Silverstone to promote the British Grand Prix.
The BRDC chairman, John Grant, has described running the event as ruinously expensive, but Carey appears puzzled that a circuit that attracted 350,000 customers last year, one of the best in F1, cannot break even.
The contract, which began at £12 million and escalates by 5 per cent a year, will cost £26 million by the end of the deal in 2026.
Carey said at Silverstone: "I don't understand some of their claims about their economics, particularly when I look at our business in other places. The people who run a good race seem to have a different picture than they are painting.
"But I don't have visibility to how they account, how they assign costs. I know we are not treating them unfairly. We are treating them consistently with others. We value Silverstone and we have three years to reach an agreement.
"Our preference is for Silverstone but the British Grand Prix certainly does not have to be here.
"We have had expressions of interest from other places in the UK, but I'm not trying to play one against the other."
THE TIMES, LONDON
An offer by Formula One owner Liberty Media to take over the running of the British Grand Prix will be rejected by Silverstone.
The American media giant, which bought F1 for £6 billion (S$10.7 billion) last year, has found itself embroiled in the traditional summer sport of keeping the British race on the calendar, with the Silverstone owner insisting on a new deal.
The British Racing Drivers' Club (BRDC), which owns the circuit, last week exercised a break clause in its 17-year deal to run the race until 2026, citing losses of £7.6 million in the past two years.
Liberty, frustrated at the BRDC's decision to do so in the build-up to yesterday's race, has offered to run the event for five years if it is given the circuit free for three weeks.
It might even be prepared to wipe out the race debts, but the BRDC is expected to decline Liberty's offer as it says it would lose £20,000 a day under the arrangement.
However, the gamble of using the break clause could backfire if Liberty does not turn out to be as sympathetic to the Silverstone cause as the BRDC believes.
Liberty chief executive Chase Carey said that European races were very important to the F1 story and that Liberty would work with Silverstone to promote the British Grand Prix.
The BRDC chairman, John Grant, has described running the event as ruinously expensive, but Carey appears puzzled that a circuit that attracted 350,000 customers last year, one of the best in F1, cannot break even.
The contract, which began at £12 million and escalates by 5 per cent a year, will cost £26 million by the end of the deal in 2026.
Carey said at Silverstone: "I don't understand some of their claims about their economics, particularly when I look at our business in other places. The people who run a good race seem to have a different picture than they are painting.
"But I don't have visibility to how they account, how they assign costs. I know we are not treating them unfairly. We are treating them consistently with others. We value Silverstone and we have three years to reach an agreement.
"Our preference is for Silverstone but the British Grand Prix certainly does not have to be here.
"We have had expressions of interest from other places in the UK, but I'm not trying to play one against the other."
THE TIMES, LONDON
p1stonhead said:
robinessex said:
While idly wandering around Google maps, I spotted this motor racing circuit 'down south'. I wonder if they would like to hold the British GP there sometime in the future?
No way Brands Hatch could handle the GP. Its way too small.thegreenhell said:
robinessex said:
Seems to have lots of green fields around it. Get the bulldozers out.
The first thing they'd need to bulldoze would be the housing estate next to the track, and all the moaning NIMBYS who live there.While it's sad that Silverstone felt this was necessary I can't help feeling that it's a consequence of being poorly run. You have hundreds of exceptionally wealthy and successful people involved at Silverstone, turn up at any open pit lane track day and witness the multitude of exotic car owners and people with enough disposable to buy a Ginetta race car or similar as toy, money to burn up in race fuel...
Now either these guys could empty out their sofas and help Silverstone out (I mean less than £5m loss last year vs the millions in motorsport team funding that flows through there makes it seem like a drop in the ocean if spread thinly enough across interested parties) not my preferred option I hasten to add, or they could use their collective smarts/business acumen to find a way for the event/circuit to make more money and break even at least, thus helping to preserve the future existence of their playground for expensive toys...
Now either these guys could empty out their sofas and help Silverstone out (I mean less than £5m loss last year vs the millions in motorsport team funding that flows through there makes it seem like a drop in the ocean if spread thinly enough across interested parties) not my preferred option I hasten to add, or they could use their collective smarts/business acumen to find a way for the event/circuit to make more money and break even at least, thus helping to preserve the future existence of their playground for expensive toys...
Edited by born2bslow on Tuesday 18th July 11:29
FourWheelDrift said:
p1stonhead said:
My idea 5th post page 1, I claim the fee Motorsport week said:
"The founders of London GP have been developing plans to host a Formula One race on the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park for over 12 months," read a statement
Now they say it.
p1stonhead said:
robinessex said:
While idly wandering around Google maps, I spotted this motor racing circuit 'down south'. I wonder if they would like to hold the British GP there sometime in the future?
No way Brands Hatch could handle the GP. Its way too small.p1stonhead said:
There is one critical thing that counts against Silverstone. Actually there are quite a few, but if you take the fundamental that Liberty want to make them week long festivals, then having very good public transport to a large stadium would place you at a significant advantage in bidding.Music, race, side events and a closing concert...
Vaud said:
p1stonhead said:
There is one critical thing that counts against Silverstone. Actually there are quite a few, but if you take the fundamental that Liberty want to make them week long festivals, then having very good public transport to a large stadium would place you at a significant advantage in bidding.Music, race, side events and a closing concert...
Vaud said:
p1stonhead said:
There is one critical thing that counts against Silverstone. Actually there are quite a few, but if you take the fundamental that Liberty want to make them week long festivals, then having very good public transport to a large stadium would place you at a significant advantage in bidding.Music, race, side events and a closing concert...
ks.... 
I (and most others I would imagine) want to drive to circuit - watch event - drive home again. Its called motorsport, not bleedin X-Factor.....
aeropilot said:
Funnily enough, this supposedly the reason for moving the World Rallycross away from Lydden Hill to Silverstone......so its part of some sort of festival bks....
I (and most others I would imagine) want to drive to circuit - watch event - drive home again. Its called motorsport, not bleedin X-Factor.....
COTA seems to work well?ks.... I (and most others I would imagine) want to drive to circuit - watch event - drive home again. Its called motorsport, not bleedin X-Factor.....
I'd quite like it. Long weekend in London. Plenty for kids to do. More hotel choice. Easy to get to and out from. Can have a few beers...
Try getting to Silverstone from almost any major city without driving.
That and I think Silverstone is a poor circuit and a poor fan experience, and is massively over rated.
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