Silverstone (again) set to terminate British GP contract.

Silverstone (again) set to terminate British GP contract.

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suffolk009

5,433 posts

166 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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^^^ I too thought that it should go through the stadium. Whilst I like the bus stop, how about turn right just before that, past the aqautics centre, through the stadium, back out over the next bridge, aquatic centre on the other side and rejoin the track with a sharp right hander.

I think it should be known as the Evangeliondrome.

aeropilot

34,671 posts

228 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Would be somewhat ironic given that we lost the marvellous old Crystal Palace circuit to the building of the National Athletics stadium........


HardtopManual

2,434 posts

167 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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It's very simple. If Silverstone can't turn a profit on an event attended by 300,000 people with ticket prices at many hundreds of pounds, the race fee is too large.


thegreenhell

15,405 posts

220 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Vaud said:


About 1.7 miles plus the hairpin section, so ~1.9 miles.
The minimum permitted length for new F1 circuits is 3.5 km, so you will need the additional distance of that loop into the stadium.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Vaud said:
Evangelion said:
I'm hoping some clever person can tell me how long it is.


About 1.7 miles plus the hairpin section, so ~1.9 miles.
Add in Westfield avenue too.

Adrian W

13,881 posts

229 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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I would love to see a proper detailed costing showing detailed costs, to include salary's, contractors and consultants fees and anything else that is paid out, considering the amount of hardware that turns up with the circus the costs seem hugely excessive.

Norfolkit

2,394 posts

191 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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HardtopManual said:
It's very simple. If Silverstone can't turn a profit on an event attended by 300,000 people with ticket prices at many hundreds of pounds, the race fee is too large.
Yep 100% and I don't see how moving somewhere else would help, particularly if there were development costs involved too, putting bums on seats has not exactly been a problem for Silverstone.

  • Had to edit, there was a comma missing, standards and all that.
Edited by Norfolkit on Wednesday 12th July 11:12

Dr Z

3,396 posts

172 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Vaud said:
Evangelion said:
I'm hoping some clever person can tell me how long it is.


About 1.7 miles plus the hairpin section, so ~1.9 miles.
Add in Westfield avenue too.
yes Here's my effort:



Added the uphill blast to Westfield Ave.

4.22 km of no overtaking goodness. Tilke would be proud! wink

NRS

22,196 posts

202 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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This is my modification. Potentially add in some points for a quick donut at the end too.


anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Looks like this is the proposed London street circuit for 2020


Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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That is awesome.

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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El stovey said:
Looks like this is the proposed London street circuit for 2020

This was the 2012 sketch idea from Santander



I like either!

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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The bottom one looks great, my top one is entirely made up.

Hungrymc

6,674 posts

138 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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That would be brilliant. Although how sad to lose Silverstone, we need both. And the UK is such a significant part of the motorsport sector we should have both.

Where are we going to sit the spectators?

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Pintofbest said:
Here is the link:

http://www.silverstone.co.uk/news/silverstone-and-...

Key part for me, and based on knowing a few who work there, is this :-

'The cumulative effect is that, despite being the most popular weekend sporting event in the UK, the net revenue from ticket sales and hospitality at the British Grand Prix is not enough to cover the Grand Prix’s share of Silverstone’s overhead costs. This is why the BRDC has taken the decision to trigger the break clause in its contract with Formula 1/Liberty Media.'

The share is overhead is disproportionate with other events hence losing this will have a bigger effect on overall commercials than just the P&L of the weekend itself.
What he's saying is that it costs them more to stage the GP than any other event. He does not say anywhere that by losing the GP Silverstone will actually lose MORE money. For a moment there I thought John was losing his marbles smile

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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lord summerisle said:
there was a called for marshals several weeks ago, with the proviso that the event was "unconfirmed" and not to make any comment on social media til an official announcement was made
Yep. I heard about it a month ago. But didn't ever hear anything more back on the topic.

Mellow Yellow

888 posts

263 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Dissapointing the government can't find some cash not just to keep the event but to transform Silverstone into a spectacular national circuit in the way other countries have done. It could become a stunning technology hub with striking architecture similar to what was done in Stratford for the olympic park. One only has too look at Goodwood to see what can be acheived with a successfullly promoted brand.

We managed to find £21m for England's failed 2018 World Cup bid, the circuit of Wales is forecast to cost £425m. Yet, here we have a sporting event that countries all over the world are clamering to get hold of and we're prepared to let it go rather than find the cash to fund it.

chris285

811 posts

133 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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I can totally understand why the decision has been made, but if the British GP was to drop off the calendar with everything this country brings and the history it would be like one of the top four premiership teams dropping out of the league for me.

In regards to other venues I don't see there being a choice where, Donington is not going happen as they spend loads on the bid and nearly killed it and no other circuit has the facilties required.

As for London no way it could be central to have all the pits and hospitiality in my eyes, and on the outskirts then becomes generic street circuit that could be anywhere and has no soul

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Mellow Yellow said:
the circuit of Wales is forecast to cost £425m. Yet, here we have a sporting event that countries all over the world are clamering to get hold of and we're prepared to let it go rather than find the cash to fund it.
I don't recall Liberty saying there wouldn't be a British GP. Just the location that is in question.

Oh, and Circuit of Wales is deader than dead.

thegreenhell

15,405 posts

220 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Mellow Yellow said:
Dissapointing the government can't find some cash
If the millionaire old-boys club can't reach an acceptable commercial agreement with the billionaire sport then why should the British tax-payer fund it?