The Official 2017 Abu Dhabi GP Thread **Spoilers**
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Hamilton was cruising up behind Bottas in order to conserve his tyres for a late attack, meanwhile Bottas too was managing tyres. I reckon about 10 laps from the end it was suddenly game on, the lock-ups from both drivers being the giveaway IMO. While I'm pleased to see Bottas with the grand slam, I do suspect that Hamilton was quite a bit faster in the race and it was just a case of Bottas doing just enough in the crucial moments to retain the lead, not making any mistakes, and Hamilton's speed advantage was never going to be enough to create an overtaking opportunity without Bottas tripping over a back marker or making a mistake.
A canny race by Bottas.
A canny race by Bottas.
HustleRussell said:
I like Hartley but he's bloody slow in an F1 car isn't he (relatively speaking).
Made up more places than anyone else in the race i think. Started last, finished 15th and ahead of his team mate, was faster in every sector than his team mate and only 0.05s off the fastest lap overall of his team mate, didn't make any mistakes unlike his team mate.The TR was the slowest car this weekend, all very odd.
Give Brendon a chance, he has been in a different car every weekend for the last 5 flying all over the world, that cant be easy with such different cars and tyres.
jsf said:
Made up more places than anyone else in the race i think. Started last...
And the man who was fastest all weekend didn't even make up a single place in the race! jsf said:
The TR was the slowest car this weekend, all very odd.
I think they just had all the engine modes turned right down for reliability because they didn't have any spares left.jsf said:
HustleRussell said:
I like Hartley but he's bloody slow in an F1 car isn't he (relatively speaking).
Made up more places than anyone else in the race i think. Started last, finished 15th and ahead of his team mate, was faster in every sector than his team mate and only 0.05s off the fastest lap overall of his team mate, didn't make any mistakes unlike his team mate.The TR was the slowest car this weekend, all very odd.
Give Brendon a chance, he has been in a different car every weekend for the last 5 flying all over the world, that cant be easy with such different cars and tyres.
Sorry for the sarcasm-laden tone, it was unnecessary.
I dunno. Qualified a distant last, eight tenths off his similarly inexperienced team mate. Ran a safe race with few mistakes while Gasly had a big spin- but I notice that Gasly was right on Brendon's gearbox pretty quickly. Fastest sector / lap times may flatter to deceive.
I really like having him there because I enjoy his demeanour and chirpy radio messages, but I am underwhelmed by Toro Rosso's 2018 driver line up so far.
I am sure that you are correct and the 2016 Ferrari PU in the Saubers was stronger than Toro Rosso's parts bin specials- and I'm not being sarcastic this time.
HustleRussell said:
Yes it's mighty impressive that he passed Ricciardo, Sainz, Stroll and Ericsson...
Sorry for the sarcasm-laden tone, it was unnecessary.
I dunno. Qualified a distant last, eight tenths off his similarly inexperienced team mate. Ran a safe race with few mistakes while Gasly had a big spin- but I notice that Gasly was right on Brendon's gearbox pretty quickly. Fastest sector / lap times may flatter to deceive.
I really like having him there because I enjoy his demeanour and chirpy radio messages, but I am underwhelmed by Toro Rosso's 2018 driver line up so far.
I am sure that you are correct and the 2016 Ferrari PU in the Saubers was stronger than Toro Rosso's parts bin specials- and I'm not being sarcastic this time.
And Gasly.Sorry for the sarcasm-laden tone, it was unnecessary.
I dunno. Qualified a distant last, eight tenths off his similarly inexperienced team mate. Ran a safe race with few mistakes while Gasly had a big spin- but I notice that Gasly was right on Brendon's gearbox pretty quickly. Fastest sector / lap times may flatter to deceive.
I really like having him there because I enjoy his demeanour and chirpy radio messages, but I am underwhelmed by Toro Rosso's 2018 driver line up so far.
I am sure that you are correct and the 2016 Ferrari PU in the Saubers was stronger than Toro Rosso's parts bin specials- and I'm not being sarcastic this time.
The gap to Gasly was pretty consistently 2 to 3 seconds with very similar lap times, the only time it closed up was during being lapped, where Brendon probably gave too much away. Looking at the top speeds both TR were seriously slow, even the McLarens were faster.
I wont judge Brendon on pace until next year, he will have had some decent seat time in the car by then (hopefully, if Honda don't screw up again)
Vaud said:
I agree on the halo but as I understand it, and I may be wrong - it is down to ongoing legal issues against the FIA following Bianchi's death.
Essentially they couldn't "not act" and this was the least worst option?
I heard Horner explaining that it's all Mercedes' fault. They burst the bubble by testing it. It could then be argued that F1 would be negligent in an incident where the halo would've saved a driver.Essentially they couldn't "not act" and this was the least worst option?
Dr Z said:
Can't say I enjoyed the race as much, but there were some good moments. Mercs in a league of their own like old times, and Bottas stringing Hamilton along, almost toying with him. He was toying right? That's how it looked me.
The car park sector needs to be changed at this track, as this showed last year too.
Off to get some McHonda t shirts now. Should be on sale.
I may be wrong but I think Hamilton just phoned it in.The car park sector needs to be changed at this track, as this showed last year too.
Off to get some McHonda t shirts now. Should be on sale.
It could only be Kimi:
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/9348078342268...
ETA: Damn I was trying to get a little TV clip to work there. Not sure it's worked.
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/9348078342268...
ETA: Damn I was trying to get a little TV clip to work there. Not sure it's worked.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
REALIST123 said:
It flattered to deceive. Some good races early in the year.
Croft says next year will be a good one........
...if Ferrari improve, Mercedes don't and RBR get a decent engine. We might have 6 cars chasing the wins.
Surely the Renault engine will be faster if it does not blow up
suffolk009 said:
It could only be Kimi:
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/9348078342268...
ETA: Damn I was trying to get a little TV clip to work there. Not sure it's worked.
That is brilliant.https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/9348078342268...
ETA: Damn I was trying to get a little TV clip to work there. Not sure it's worked.
suffolk009 said:
jsf said:
suffolk009 said:
Kyalami?
Could be a bit difficult politically. But this is F1, so they'd just shrug it off.
They don't have any money, their currency has just been downgraded to junk, so not going to happen there anytime soon.Could be a bit difficult politically. But this is F1, so they'd just shrug it off.
768 said:
suffolk009 said:
It could only be Kimi:
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/9348078342268...
ETA: Damn I was trying to get a little TV clip to work there. Not sure it's worked.
That is brilliant.https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/9348078342268...
ETA: Damn I was trying to get a little TV clip to work there. Not sure it's worked.
thegreenhell said:
768 said:
suffolk009 said:
It could only be Kimi:
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/9348078342268...
ETA: Damn I was trying to get a little TV clip to work there. Not sure it's worked.
That is brilliant.https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/9348078342268...
ETA: Damn I was trying to get a little TV clip to work there. Not sure it's worked.
HustleRussell said:
thegreenhell said:
768 said:
suffolk009 said:
It could only be Kimi:
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/9348078342268...
ETA: Damn I was trying to get a little TV clip to work there. Not sure it's worked.
That is brilliant.https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/9348078342268...
ETA: Damn I was trying to get a little TV clip to work there. Not sure it's worked.
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