New car reveals

[Mr Red Barron]

CraigyMc said:

Mr Red Barron said:

Piginapoke said:

thegreenhell said:

Really, who've they lost? There was an interview with Zak Brown a couple of days ago where he said they had three new sponsors signed but not yet announced.

Santander, CNN, Johnnie Walker, Calsonic, Star Sports Network, Castrol, Michael Kors and (which seems a bit harsh) Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Just seen their video teaser for their launch. Right at the end they have a screen grab of their sponsors which include: Chandon, NTT Communications, Richard Mille, Kimoa, Hilton, Logitech, Renault, Norton Rose Fulbright, Airgain, Pirelli, SAP, CNBC, Stratasys, Akebono, Enkei, Mazak, Kenwood, Technogym, Volvo, Sparco, Sikkens, Lat_56, and Calsonic

Admittedly, i don't know how many of them are main sponsors (more technical partners) and I haven't heard of half of them, but it looks like a pretty respectable group?

Most of those are long-term deals McLaren have had for ages.

Of the newer ones:
CNBC - was previously a sauber sponsor, now McLaren.
Kimoa (surfwear/sunglasses etc) - new for 2018. Kimoa is owned by Fernando Alonso...
Airgain (wireless tech) - new for 2018.

Reckon they're the 3 that Zak was talking about then

[CraigyMc]

For those who are vaguely interested in what all these companies are/do

Chandon, Champagne. Part of LVMH group (which owns Tag Heuer amongst other things)
NTT Communications, telecoms and IT. Japanese telecoms group (Nippon Telegraph and Telephones) which has branched out into IT as well.
Richard Mille, Watches. They have models that sell for £100K+.
Kimoa, Nando's T-shirt company.
Hilton, Hotels
Logitech, computer/mobile accessories.
Renault, Motors which will soon be complained loudly about.
Norton Rose Fulbright, Legal firm
Airgain, Wireless technology
Pirelli, Tyres which will soon be complained about
SAP, Software/ IT services to help run enterprises
CNBC, TV/News network
Stratasys, 3D printing company
Akebono, Japanese braking company
Enkei, Japanese wheels company
Mazak, (Yamazaki Mazak Corporation) - Japanese machine tool company
Kenwood, Japanese Audio company
Technogym, Italian exercise equipment company
Volvo, Swedish/Chinese truck company
Sparco, Italian racewear company
Sikkens, Part of AkzoNobel. Paint company
Lat_56, Ultra-high end luggage company
Calsonic, (Calsonic Kansei) - Japanese auto parts company

Interesting how many of these are Japanese, given the rift with Honda, although most predate the recent iteration of McLaren Honda.

[Mr Red Barron]

Looks like mclaren have another sponsor onboard

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/134270/mclaren-s...

[5harp3y]

CraigyMc said:

For those who are vaguely interested in what all these companies are/do

Lat_56, Ultra-high end luggage company
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i really want some new luggage now!

[Mr Red Barron]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/134370/haas-firs...

New Haas unveiled..........underwhelmed

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Yep, video of a (computer rendered) new Haas

[Bradgate]

I was hoping to be surprised by clever aero tricks on & around the halo, but there is no sign of that on the Haas. It really is just a big metal bar.

Let’s hope the big teams can innovate and come up with something a bit more interesting.

[r11co]

Bradgate said:

I was hoping to be surprised by clever aero tricks on & around the halo, but there is no sign of that on the Haas. It really is just a big metal bar.

Let’s hope the big teams can innovate and come up with something a bit more interesting.

Credit where it is due - they've done a damn good job of hiding it.

[Piginapoke]

Ferrari style side pods, that’s a big change

[HTP99]

r11co said:

Bradgate said:

I was hoping to be surprised by clever aero tricks on & around the halo, but there is no sign of that on the Haas. It really is just a big metal bar.

Let’s hope the big teams can innovate and come up with something a bit more interesting.

Credit where it is due - they've done a damn good job of hiding it.

Yep, I didn't even notice the halo at first.

[thegreenhell]

r11co said:

Credit where it is due - they've done a damn good job of hiding it.

It's amazing how painting something black in front of a black background can do that.

[amgmcqueen]

The front wing is a complete joke!

[Turbotechnic]

Meh. Very underwhelming, let's hope the other teams do a better job than this.

[HustleRussell]

You lot are getting a bit excited considering it’s a render.

Bradgate said:

I was hoping to be surprised by clever aero tricks on & around the halo, but there is no sign of that on the Haas. It really is just a big metal bar.

Let’s hope the big teams can innovate and come up with something a bit more interesting.

As if teams are going to give away their Halo aero solution before Barcelona.

[HighwayStar]

Mclaren: Dell main sponsor
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.motorsport.com/...

[anonymous-user]

Turbotechnic said:

Meh. Very underwhelming, let's hope the other teams do a better job than this.

What would you have done, and how?

[HTP99]

REALIST123 said:

Turbotechnic said:

Meh. Very underwhelming, let's hope the other teams do a better job than this.

What would you have done, and how?

I don't really know what people are expecting; all the cars are designed and built to a set of rules, so the basic shape is hardly going to be anything radically different and as for the livery, well actually I think it it looks OK.

Edited by HTP99 on Thursday 15th February 07:45

[48k]

HighwayStar said:

Mclaren: Dell main sponsor
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.motorsport.com/...

Apologies in advance if I am misunderstanding you but they are not a main sponsor (if you mean title sponsor eg. "McLaren Dell") they are just a sponsor (actually, "official technology partner").

They came very close to doing a big sponsorship deal with GoDaddy - even so far as creating a complete package of 2018 car bodywork liveried up with the big GoDaddy logo, but the deal wasn't completed.

Busy period coming up - the real Renault engine is meeting the chasis for the first time this week, up till now they have been working with a test mule of the same dimensions, then everything has got to be shipped out to Spain.

[Vocal Minority]

HTP99 said:

REALIST123 said:

Turbotechnic said:

Meh. Very underwhelming, let's hope the other teams do a better job than this.

What would you have done, and how?

I don't really know what people are expecting; all the cars are designed and built to a set of rules, so the basic shape is hardly going to be anything radically different and as for the livery, well actually I think it it looks OK.

Edited by HTP99 on Thursday 15th February 07:45

Quite. A universally (broadly) accepted 'best shape' always emerges - to stray from it is to be slower.

They aren't going to do something left field for the sake of it and see if it works or not out on track.

[anonymous-user]

Vocal Minority said:

HTP99 said:

REALIST123 said:

Turbotechnic said:

Meh. Very underwhelming, let's hope the other teams do a better job than this.

What would you have done, and how?

I don't really know what people are expecting; all the cars are designed and built to a set of rules, so the basic shape is hardly going to be anything radically different and as for the livery, well actually I think it it looks OK.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 15th February 07:45

Quite. A universally (broadly) accepted 'best shape' always emerges - to stray from it is to be slower.

They aren't going to do something left field for the sake of it and see if it works or not out on track.

Possibly so, but that’s wasn’t my point.

People make critical comments and I’m curious to know from what position they do that.

My son is an aero designer for one of the leading teams and I have a little understanding of the effort that goes into these cars from that viewpoint.

Yet all that effort can be summarily dismissed on here with a one line comment. I think it’s fair to question that.

I remember at beginning of 2014 someone on here dismissed the Mercedes, ruling it out on the basis of a few first images. That was spot on, eh?