The Official Australian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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Car-Matt said:
A couple of armchair experts on a car forum aren't going to suddenly find a gaping hole in the rules of one of the most lucrative sports in the world..........
Ah, but it happened to Lewis.....that means its an appalling travesty and blame must be laid...preferably away from Hamilton 
In all seriousness, this needs to be chalked up to the law of unintended consequences, and maybe Mercedes need to take a lesson in not trying to be too clever for their own good!
It was the intention of Pirelli’s tyre compounds this year, to ensure that each race needed two pitstops. Again, they got it wrong as teams will always prefer to try a one-stop and that crystallises these unintended consequences.
I just wish they would stop messing about and write a rule that requires two stops. Strategies would come to life, particularly in races like Oz where 5-passes have become the norm. And then situations like Lewis / Seb have the potential to be unwound.
I just wish they would stop messing about and write a rule that requires two stops. Strategies would come to life, particularly in races like Oz where 5-passes have become the norm. And then situations like Lewis / Seb have the potential to be unwound.
Car-Matt said:
The zones are the marshalling zones, they are small as each marshal can see the next marshal along so there is always a line of sight around the whole circuit. Not sure on the speed but they have to stick to a time through each sector
The marshalling zone is the section of track between each of the FIA light panels, they have track sensors at each light panel point to produce the timing data for the FIA feed. You can have multiple manned flag marshalls inside a single light panel marshalling zone. The only points that are used are the light panel positions, plus the safety car lines at the entrance and exit of the pits.The speed is set by the FIA in the standard ECU and could be varied event to event, they all have that producing the delta time on the dash, its not something the teams can program.
Vocal Minority said:
Car-Matt said:
A couple of armchair experts on a car forum aren't going to suddenly find a gaping hole in the rules of one of the most lucrative sports in the world..........
Ah, but it happened to Lewis.....that means its an appalling travesty and blame must be laid...preferably away from Hamilton In all seriousness, this needs to be chalked up to the law of unintended consequences, and maybe Mercedes need to take a lesson in not trying to be too clever for their own good!
Why is it if there’d been a normal safety car Ferrari’s tactics would be seen as great tactics and nothing more yet under the VSC the tactics are arguably even better and yet a lot of fans can’t wrap their head around this fact?
They’re allowed to pit for new tyres whether the safety car is a silver Merc going as fast as it can or if it’s a virtual one. There is no argument about whether it’s fair or not, the only argument to have is whether Merc f
ked up more than Ferrari didn’t fk up.
I think Merc were trying to be a bit too clever in the 1st stint, and I'd say that rather than the VSC cockup cost them the win. Lewis was setting a slow pace early on, to keep the midfield pack close by to prevent an early undercut attempt by Ferrari.
He spent like 10 laps in the 1m29s, leading by 3 seconds after 15 laps.
Pretty sure that Merc could have gone a lot faster, judging by how much speed they were able to find when they suddenly found themselves behind the red car.
Again in the second stint, the same games.
Maybe Merc were too concerned about absolutely dominating the first race after absolutely dominating the first qualifying.
We don't want people to start panicking, do we?
He spent like 10 laps in the 1m29s, leading by 3 seconds after 15 laps.
Pretty sure that Merc could have gone a lot faster, judging by how much speed they were able to find when they suddenly found themselves behind the red car.
Again in the second stint, the same games.
Maybe Merc were too concerned about absolutely dominating the first race after absolutely dominating the first qualifying.
We don't want people to start panicking, do we?
They wont push the speed more than they have to, that's what happens when you have the F1 races being part of a 7 race endurance run. (utter garbage call off the pursuit racing as a result)
Mercedes covered off Kimi's pit stop, had they not then under the vast majority of cases Kimi would have won.
Vettel got lucky with the VSC, there was no strategy involved other than making sure Vetell didn't come out behind a Haas, without the Haas team imploding he would have been 3rd.
Mercedes covered off Kimi's pit stop, had they not then under the vast majority of cases Kimi would have won.
Vettel got lucky with the VSC, there was no strategy involved other than making sure Vetell didn't come out behind a Haas, without the Haas team imploding he would have been 3rd.
jsf said:
They wont push the speed more than they have to, that's what happens when you have the F1 races being part of a 7 race endurance run. (utter garbage call off the pursuit racing as a result)
Mercedes covered off Kimi's pit stop, had they not then under the vast majority of cases Kimi would have won.
Vettel got lucky with the VSC, there was no strategy involved other than making sure Vetell didn't come out behind a Haas, without the Haas team imploding he would have been 3rd.
We agree on something, Vettel got very lucky and imo Ferrari didn’t plan to pit late in case of a safety carMercedes covered off Kimi's pit stop, had they not then under the vast majority of cases Kimi would have won.
Vettel got lucky with the VSC, there was no strategy involved other than making sure Vetell didn't come out behind a Haas, without the Haas team imploding he would have been 3rd.
The only things that can really be said was that Merc should have allowed more margin as an immediate real safety car would have seen them lose more time
My suspicion is that the Merc doesn’t have as much of a race pace advantage over Ferrari as we think and it’s extra onelap pace isn’t sustainable over a stint because it probably means they run out of oil and/or grenade the engine
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My suspicion is that the Merc doesn’t have as much of a race pace advantage over Ferrari as we think and it’s extra onelap pace isn’t sustainable over a stint because it probably means they run out of oil and/or grenade the engine
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Pretty much the point we were at last season then which is no bad thing. That Merc one lap pace is just putting Ferrari and McLaren on the back foot sadly.
My suspicion is that the Merc doesn’t have as much of a race pace advantage over Ferrari as we think and it’s extra onelap pace isn’t sustainable over a stint because it probably means they run out of oil and/or grenade the engine
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Pretty much the point we were at last season then which is no bad thing. That Merc one lap pace is just putting Ferrari and McLaren on the back foot sadly.
Might have been posted before?
Official F1 ‘power rankings’ after the first race...
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2018/3...
Official F1 ‘power rankings’ after the first race...
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2018/3...
Dr Z said:
I think Merc were trying to be a bit too clever in the 1st stint, and I'd say that rather than the VSC cockup cost them the win. Lewis was setting a slow pace early on, to keep the midfield pack close by to prevent an early undercut attempt by Ferrari.
He spent like 10 laps in the 1m29s, leading by 3 seconds after 15 laps.
Pretty sure that Merc could have gone a lot faster, judging by how much speed they were able to find when they suddenly found themselves behind the red car.
Again in the second stint, the same games.
Maybe Merc were too concerned about absolutely dominating the first race after absolutely dominating the first qualifying.
We don't want people to start panicking, do we?
Possibly trying to help Bottas up the field too? He spent like 10 laps in the 1m29s, leading by 3 seconds after 15 laps.
Pretty sure that Merc could have gone a lot faster, judging by how much speed they were able to find when they suddenly found themselves behind the red car.
Again in the second stint, the same games.
Maybe Merc were too concerned about absolutely dominating the first race after absolutely dominating the first qualifying.
We don't want people to start panicking, do we?
When Daniel Ricciardo came to carsales HQ for a visit
Funny interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wn6ZxCu2-Y
Funny interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wn6ZxCu2-Y
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 1st April 23:05
ELUSIVEJIM said:
When Daniel Ricciardo came to carsales HQ for a visit
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/post.asp?h=0&a...
That link is this topics reply box?https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/post.asp?h=0&a...
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