F1 Past

[Eric Mc]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

It must be something about the Irish but I have always like Eddie Irvine. Just says what he thinks "which mostly is spot on" and gives great stories his time in F1.

Typical Eddie being interviewed

Ted clearly doesn't like him but perhaps he is just jealous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLSrF6z9jls

Edited by ELUSIVEJIM on Thursday 19th April 12:40

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Although he comes across as extremely unlikable.

I saw him race Formula Fords in the late 1970s.

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

You might like this -



Although he comes across as extremely unlikable.

I saw him race Formula Fords in the late 1970s.

I have to say I have never heard of him as the title states.

Will need to find a copy to watch it.

Was he a decent racer?

[anonymous-user]

James Hunt being James Hunt but in the commentary box

Andrea de Cesaris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPe0t02dWF4

Jean-Pierre Jarier collection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e16fDASkcGY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHS53krjxkg

Piquet getting it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b3oM5y2JjI

Hector Rebaque, Brabham Team and the FIA rules all getting it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyPRnpqRRA4

Lots more but just a few clips from Mr Hunt

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 19th April 13:22

[anonymous-user]

F1 GP Argentina 1980 01 Buenos Aires

The 1980 Formula One season started in Argentina in January. This event, held at the Buenos Aires Municipal Autodrome located in the sprawling Argentine capital started off badly. After Friday's practice, due to the heat and the suction these ground-effect cars were creating, the track began to break up, and the drivers found conditions difficult and even dangerous. Led by Emerson Fittipaldi, the drivers staged a semi-unsuccessful protest – the organizers did actually fix the track, but not successfully – come race day, the track was still in a dreadful condition. The race went ahead anyway, and the Buenos Aires circuit, being one of the most varied and challenging circuits on the calendar, provided an ultra-exciting race, where many drivers were caught-out by the disintegration of the twisty arena infield section of the No.15 variant of the racing facility. After going off twice and dropping back to 4th after making a pit-stop to clean grass out of his car's radiators, Australian and title favorite Alan Jones took victory in his Williams-Ford/Cosworth. Brazilian Nelson Piquet, who also went off a few times finished 2nd, and Finn Keke Rosberg scored an excellent 3rd in his Fittipaldi. French rookie Alain Prost, in his first ever F1 race, finished 6th and scored his first ever World Championship point. Gilles Villeneuve, competitive throughout in his Ferrari, crashed heavily at the Toboggan left-right sequence of corners after his front suspension failed after possible damage caused to it after a number of off-track excursions the Canadian had during the race.

Full race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT8JUgnmf80

[Eric Mc]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

I have to say I have never heard of him as the title states.

Will need to find a copy to watch it.

Was he a decent racer?

He was an exceptional racer - but mad as a mad thing. It was his off track attitude that did him in.

I once saw him take out a Victorian lamp standard in the Phoenix Park with a Formula Ford. The car was bent in half by the impact.

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

He was an exceptional racer - but mad as a mad thing. It was his off track attitude that did him in.

I once saw him take out a Victorian lamp standard in the Phoenix Park with a Formula Ford. The car was bent in half by the impact.

Such a shame his off track attitude cost him.

Seems to happen in life as well.

Sounds like a must watch.

[thegreenhell]

Crash and Byrne was shown on the BBC last year. Definitely worth a watch. There's also a Motorsport podcast with Tommy Byrne that's worth a listen.

In a similar vein, meet the man that Senna couldn't beat:

https://jalopnik.com/meet-the-man-ayrton-senna-cou...

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

He was an exceptional racer - but mad as a mad thing. It was his off track attitude that did him in.

I once saw him take out a Victorian lamp standard in the Phoenix Park with a Formula Ford. The car was bent in half by the impact.

He seems like George Best but never allowed himself to get to that level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONrC2TVqLPg

[anonymous-user]

thegreenhell said:

Crash and Byrne was shown on the BBC last year. Definitely worth a watch. There's also a Motorsport podcast with Tommy Byrne that's worth a listen.

In a similar vein, meet the man that Senna couldn't beat:

https://jalopnik.com/meet-the-man-ayrton-senna-cou...

Thanks for that. Hopefully SKY catch up might have it. Looks a great watch.

Yes I remember Senna stating the best driver he had ever raced was Fullerton. It was a shock as like myself, the press had no idea who he was.

Reading his back story just shows how good Fullerton was. It was a real shame he never took the steps to moving forward but alas losing your brother is pretty shocking for all involved.

It is strange however that other drivers like Prost, Mansell etc. etc. were not rated but still went on to huge success.

Many amazing Kart racers have been muted when moving up through the different Motorsport ranks.

Many it was money, not getting the break or simply were not as good when it came to higher pressure racing.

These are the stories that make F1.

[Eric Mc]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

He seems like George Best but never allowed himself to get to that level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONrC2TVqLPg

I think he lacked Best's charm somewhat.

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

I think he lacked Best's charm somewhat.

John Watson thought if sha***ng was a sport he would have won a Gold medal.

Never thought I would hear John state that.

[DanielSan]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Thanks for that. Hopefully SKY catch up might have it. Looks a great watch.

Yes I remember Senna stating the best driver he had ever raced was Fullerton. It was a shock as like myself, the press had no idea who he was.

Reading his back story just shows how good Fullerton was. It was a real shame he never took the steps to moving forward but alas losing your brother is pretty shocking for all involved.

It is strange however that other drivers like Prost, Mansell etc. etc. were not rated but still went on to huge success.

Many amazing Kart racers have been muted when moving up through the different Motorsport ranks.

Many it was money, not getting the break or simply were not as good when it came to higher pressure racing.

These are the stories that make F1.

Had a similar conversation with someone yesterday, it’s always amazing how many highly rated/succcessful drivers in the lower categories who get to F1 don’t live up to the promise and the drivers who weren’t as successful manage to get an F1 seat go on to adapt to the F1 cars far better. Guess it’s a combination of when they hit peak ability and how adaptable they are to different cars.

[anonymous-user]

DanielSan said:

Had a similar conversation with someone yesterday, it’s always amazing how many highly rated/succcessful drivers in the lower categories who get to F1 don’t live up to the promise and the drivers who weren’t as successful manage to get an F1 seat go on to adapt to the F1 cars far better. Guess it’s a combination of when they hit peak ability and how adaptable they are to different cars.

Exactly. I have followed a few drivers over the years who were blitzing everyone in the formula they were in at the time. Everyone basically stating that they are going to go to the top but it just never happens.

The huge issue with Motorsport as you know is you are only as good as your car. Yes you can beat your teammate but if the car is just a dog you will struggle to get noticed.

Obviously other sports like football you can show your skills in a much easier fashion "if you are talented"

[anonymous-user]

Maserati 250F Start up.

Stunning looking F1 car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlG7bLUybf8

Martin Brundle taking one out on track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_A4WjcJ6DQ

[slipstream 1985]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Eric Mc said:

It was traces of lead in the water that caused Tyrrell to be found out.

So basically had the water but put lead in the tank as well to make sure the car was legal.

Then remove the lead before the start of the race and slipping it back in at the end?

I remember in my Karting days a local businessman's son was doing very well against some top drivers.

He had the best of the best equipment and was a bit full of himself in the process. It's understandable to be like this in a way but he just loved to make a point of how good he was which did annoy a number of others.

Anyway after a race he was about to be weighed and his father/mechanic handing him back his helmet. It was discovered to have a large piece of lead hidden in it under his gloves. Not sure if someone knew or if it had fallen out.

He was banned for a year but never returned.

Perhaps if he had not been so cocky other would not have watch him so closely.

Edited by ELUSIVEJIM on Wednesday 18th April 15:59

This is a bit of an urban legend in karting circles. Yes it happened but the difference vs the ammount of lead you would need to put into the helmet would only be 1/10th or max 2/10th.

[anonymous-user]

slipstream 1985 said:

This is a bit of an urban legend in karting circles. Yes it happened but the difference vs the ammount of lead you would need to put into the helmet would only be 1/10th or max 2/10th.

Not sure what actually happened after as there was a big presence around there motor home before I left. This went on for at least another hour after as my mate was there as a marshal after hurting himself out on his mountain bike so could not race.

Perhaps there was other things going on before he was banned and never returned.

I suppose if your prepared to put lead in your helmet and not get caught you would perhaps chance more.

[F1GTRUeno]

I think I'm being too hard on modern F1 and then a video like this pops up and my god

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SoZiTxdQyw&fe...

What a thing to behold.

[Eric Mc]

F1GTRUeno said:

I think I'm being too hard on modern F1 and then a video like this pops up and my god

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SoZiTxdQyw&fe...

What a thing to behold.

Had the pleasure of hearing the 1995 Ferraris in full battle cry at Imola in that year's GP. Even thinking about the noise makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

What we've lost.

[anonymous-user]

F1GTRUeno said:

I think I'm being too hard on modern F1 and then a video like this pops up and my god

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SoZiTxdQyw&fe...

What a thing to behold.

I have to say I feel sorry for the younger/modern F1 fans who will never experience these sounds.

The noise was unbelievable. The first last of the GP and the ground shaked.

Perhaps F1 would get sued for kids ears being ruined

Alesi at Silverstone that year but onboard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ESAYRZ5DMc

[RichB]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

F1GTRUeno said:

I think I'm being too hard on modern F1 and then a video like this pops up and my god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SoZiTxdQyw&fe...
What a thing to behold.

I have to say I feel sorry for the younger/modern F1 fans who will never experience these sounds.
The noise was unbelievable. The first last of the GP and the ground shaked.
Perhaps F1 would get sued for kids ears being ruined

Indeed, I took my sons, then age 8 & 10 to the Friday practice for the British GP in 1992. We arrived early and parked up to cook some egg & bacon sandwiches on a camping cooker, all part of the fun for young boys. The noise even then at pre-qualification was amazing. My boys couldn't wait to get to see that cars. Afterwards we managed to get photos of them sitting on the front wheels of Senna's McLaren, unfortunately I've lost the photo. Thinking back quali' was a different experience back then, very relaxed because cars had open pit lane and it started early with the Minardis, March, Brabhams, Andrea Modas etc.