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A very interesting insight into the old Spa circuit.
Just imagine the speeds and risks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCsJZhVadqY
Just imagine the speeds and risks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCsJZhVadqY
coppice said:
On BBC iplayer do check out the Sporting Mavericks series - one episode of which features Tom Pryce , the Welsh F1 driver killed at Kyalami in 1977. A very moving portrait of a lost talent (one third of the Lost Generation triumvirate so beautifully written about by David Tremayne ) . I found it almost unsettling , as I had been present at so many of the events shown on film .
There was a lovely exhibition about Tom's life at Denbigh , Tom's home town . last year which OH and I visited , and I contributed a programme from one of Tom's early races at Oulton .
Thank you for this There was a lovely exhibition about Tom's life at Denbigh , Tom's home town . last year which OH and I visited , and I contributed a programme from one of Tom's early races at Oulton .
R.I.P Russell Brookes. Very sad news. Just some footage of the great man in his big battles with McRae.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj57XpdGN4E&t=...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj57XpdGN4E&t=...
Eric Mc said:
Did he ever try F1?
Nanni Gali also died a few days ago. I think Galli did have a few F1 races.
Sorry, Eric just noticed your reply. Only just short of a Month late Nanni Gali also died a few days ago. I think Galli did have a few F1 races.
No, he was purely just a rally driver. He might have had a go at one point but I can't find any information about anything.
I didn't realise Nanni had passed away. Very sad. It's scary these drivers you once watched as a kid no longer being with us.
Mansell passing on the outside at high speed - Mexico GP, 1990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2g1yrGputA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2g1yrGputA
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 25th February 01:18
Denny Hulme drifting - Monaco GP, 1967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5v9ZRckZFA&t=...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5v9ZRckZFA&t=...
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 15th February 10:31
dr_gn said:
Same with historic F1 and Goodwood etc, nothing like seeing them when they were being run and driven in anger by a 'proper' F1 team, when they were state-of-the-art. Something special about it that a demo can't ever replicate.
Historic F1 races are not demo's, same goes for the cars races at Goodwood.paulguitar said:
I just came across this quite amazing video on youtube tonight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk1JI2bO5lE
I am not sure if it has previously been posted here, also not sure if perhaps it's a Pistonheader in the video as a six-year-old?
Great stuff. Those Turbo cars sounded garbage though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk1JI2bO5lE
I am not sure if it has previously been posted here, also not sure if perhaps it's a Pistonheader in the video as a six-year-old?
dr_gn said:
I didn’t say historic F1 races were demos, I’m saying the experience of either a historic F1 race, or a demo is nothing like seeing them when they were state of the art, when you knew you were seeing cutting edge technology cars, being pushed to their limits by the best drivers in the world.
The implication was there. Of course the drama of cutting edge technology is not there, but the cars are still spectacular in the right hands and in some cases faster than period.Eric Mc said:
I would argue that quite a few of the top level historic racers don’t hold back much when they are actually racing the cars.
They don't hold back at all. It's very competitive at the front, you obviously get a mix of talents and ages of drivers but the guys fighting over the wins are quick. You get quite a few drivers who are professional level drivers in these cars.Demo's and events like the FOS are just putting on a show of the car or enjoying a hobby, lucky people that they are. The more modern kit doesn't have anywhere to race, but you still get some of the cars like the championship winning Williams and McLaren's given a run with the owner renting a private circuit for the day and paying for McLaren and Williams to run the cars, they get run at full power. Billionaires can do that sort of thing out of the public gaze.
stevesuk said:
Reading an interview, and apparently he lapped in the 1 minute 39s today, equivalent to Lewis Hamilton's fastest lap during the race last year.
That's progress then - a 15 year old car with just a few laps of running, on presumably less than optimal settings - is as quick as the fastest car
in race trim last year I'm not an expert in these things - but I imagine a testing programme to optimise the car to today's tyres, and to tune the settings for the circuit, and it would be quicker still.
People have said that the racing was no more exciting back then - and perhaps they're right. But as an overall package of entertainment?
The cars are built to a Formula, hence the name of the series, Formula 1. If the engineers were left to it the cars would be much faster.That's progress then - a 15 year old car with just a few laps of running, on presumably less than optimal settings - is as quick as the fastest car
in race trim last year
I'm not an expert in these things - but I imagine a testing programme to optimise the car to today's tyres, and to tune the settings for the circuit, and it would be quicker still.People have said that the racing was no more exciting back then - and perhaps they're right. But as an overall package of entertainment?
Edited by stevesuk on Saturday 12th December 19:16
This is why comparing cars from different era's needs to understand the rules applied at the time are what sets the pace potential.
Hit up the bum whilst accelerating hard, which usually means he missed a gear or something in the drivetrain broke, both giving no drive forward with the car behind flat out closing the gap unexpectedly. He then hit the wall following the impact. Based on the fact when he was hit up the bum and then spun up the rear tyres as they went light, leaving some darkies, i'd say he missed a gear shift, then got it, then got hit whilst hard on the throttle.
Without all the facts and drivers talking to the stewards the penalty seemed very harsh.
Without all the facts and drivers talking to the stewards the penalty seemed very harsh.
TheDeuce said:
Monaco was excellent today! Albeit a couple of cars crunched to the point I'd say they're dead.. (but in reality they'll be rebuilt yet somehow remain original..) it was a very lovely sunny day of motorsport and the locals were really enjoying it
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