F1 Past

F1 Past

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carl_w

6,679 posts

224 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Please tell me you guys are watching the Ronnie Peterson documentary on Sky Documentaries right now.
Thanks for the tip. Starting it now.

The Hypno-Toad

10,670 posts

171 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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carl_w said:
Thanks for the tip. Starting it now.
I thought it was excellent. Ever since Senna we’ve had some great motor racing films. Hopefully this trend will continue.

Thundersports

494 posts

111 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Get to Brands for the Masters in August and watch the top Historic F1 cars out at Westfield or Dingle Dell there's no shortage of 100% commitment! Last year Martin Stretton in his Tyrrell 012 was on the absolute limit in qualifying I was at Dingle Dell and it was breathtaking. if you get all the top guys out at once; Stretton, Lyons, Padmore, Thornton etc you're in for a treat.


dr_gn

14,669 posts

150 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Thundersports said:
Get to Brands for the Masters in August and watch the top Historic F1 cars out at Westfield or Dingle Dell there's no shortage of 100% commitment! Last year Martin Stretton in his Tyrrell 012 was on the absolute limit in qualifying I was at Dingle Dell and it was breathtaking. if you get all the top guys out at once; Stretton, Lyons, Padmore, Thornton etc you're in for a treat.
How many '90's F1 cars race in that series, and how many V-10 or V-12 cars are there?

jsf

22,699 posts

202 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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dr_gn said:
How many '90's F1 cars race in that series, and how many V-10 or V-12 cars are there?
None.

The Masters FIA Historic F1 Championship is for cars up to 1985 with NA engines run under FIA appendix K rules.

LukeBrown66

805 posts

12 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Basically it is full of DFV engined cars, not much variety in terms of noise, bit plenty in terms of looks.

Once you have seen it once, you have pretty much seen it, but now and then something interesting comes out like a BRM or Matra Ligier.

driving standards are hugely varied, from top drivers to rich old men plodding, but I guess you have to expect that.

Roofless Toothless

3,478 posts

98 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Thundersports said:
Get to Brands for the Masters in August and watch the top Historic F1 cars out at Westfield or Dingle Dell there's no shortage of 100% commitment! Last year Martin Stretton in his Tyrrell 012 was on the absolute limit in qualifying I was at Dingle Dell and it was breathtaking. if you get all the top guys out at once; Stretton, Lyons, Padmore, Thornton etc you're in for a treat.
One day during the nineties I was marshaling at Brands, down on the back straight behind the pits. There was an historic F1 event, and we became aware of a kerfuffle going on on the hill rising up towards Druids hairpin. Sure enough the red flags came out, and after a while we saw one of the cars coming back on two separate flat bed trucks, taking the back door into the pits just opposite us. I think it may have been a Wolf, or something of that era.

Later on one of the trackside photographers made his way past our post, so we cheerily asked if he had got the accident, and he said he had managed some shots of it, thanks. And then he added, "it's not often you see a DFV coming down the road on its own ... "

Thundersports

494 posts

111 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Roofless Toothless said:
One day during the nineties I was marshaling at Brands, down on the back straight behind the pits. There was an historic F1 event, and we became aware of a kerfuffle going on on the hill rising up towards Druids hairpin. Sure enough the red flags came out, and after a while we saw one of the cars coming back on two separate flat bed trucks, taking the back door into the pits just opposite us. I think it may have been a Wolf, or something of that era.

Later on one of the trackside photographers made his way past our post, so we cheerily asked if he had got the accident, and he said he had managed some shots of it, thanks. And then he added, "it's not often you see a DFV coming down the road on its own ... "
That was a Spirit that hit the inside barrier after losing it on the exit of Paddock.

Thundersports

494 posts

111 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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dr_gn said:
How many '90's F1 cars race in that series, and how many V-10 or V-12 cars are there?
They'll be a demo at the Masters meeting for the 90s cars. If you want to see them race you need to travel to Europe to watch Boss GP but it's pot luck whether you'll see V10/V12 cars.

Roofless Toothless

3,478 posts

98 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Thundersports said:
That was a Spirit that hit the inside barrier after losing it on the exit of Paddock.
Ah, thanks for putting me right. I remember it being one of the smaller teams. It's a shame to see a historic car smashed up like that, but they look pretty sad in museums too.

jsf

22,699 posts

202 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Roofless Toothless said:
Ah, thanks for putting me right. I remember it being one of the smaller teams. It's a shame to see a historic car smashed up like that, but they look pretty sad in museums too.
Anything can be fixed and often is. biggrin

Deesee

5,211 posts

49 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Classic Car Curation (@CCCuration) Tweeted:
Incredible reworked colour 60fps 1964 footage of the F1 British GP onboard Jim Clark's Lotus 25. https://t.co/CQcaGVLsfA

Reworked colour 1964 British GP Pathe coverage!

Enjoy!

dr_gn

14,669 posts

150 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Deesee said:
Classic Car Curation (@CCCuration) Tweeted:
Incredible reworked colour 60fps 1964 footage of the F1 British GP onboard Jim Clark's Lotus 25. https://t.co/CQcaGVLsfA

Reworked colour 1964 British GP Pathe coverage!

Enjoy!
Love the chronometric tacho.

Didn't realise the Lotus 25 had an offest steering wheel, I thought that was the 49.

Eric Mc

115,241 posts

231 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Deesee said:
Classic Car Curation (@CCCuration) Tweeted:
Incredible reworked colour 60fps 1964 footage of the F1 British GP onboard Jim Clark's Lotus 25. https://t.co/CQcaGVLsfA

Reworked colour 1964 British GP Pathe coverage!

Enjoy!
I’ve been looking at some of these reworked older clips and whilst they look sharper and smoother than before, the colours seem too garish to me.

TheDeuce

9,526 posts

32 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Eric Mc said:
Deesee said:
Classic Car Curation (@CCCuration) Tweeted:
Incredible reworked colour 60fps 1964 footage of the F1 British GP onboard Jim Clark's Lotus 25. https://t.co/CQcaGVLsfA

Reworked colour 1964 British GP Pathe coverage!

Enjoy!
I’ve been looking at some of these reworked older clips and whilst they look sharper and smoother than before, the colours seem too garish to me.
Derek.... life was colourful for real back then! You just have to try extra hard to remember biggrin

Tip: remember long sunny days as a kid wink

stevesuk

1,182 posts

148 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Bit of a thread resurrection to post this:



You often see F1 cars from the V10 era being pedalled gently as part of a historic event or PR activity - but not often at an F1 event with one of the best drivers of the era giving it close to full beans.

According to Twitter, his fastest lap was only a few seconds off of last years pole position time.

It seems to be running without the period "grooved slicks", which must help unlock some lap time. If given some time to set the car up properly, and permission to drive it absolutely flat-out, I wonder how quick it would actually be compared to this years cars? One thing, in my opinion at least, it sounds and looks a whole lot quicker.

generationx

3,730 posts

71 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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It sounded absolutely epic, ((deep sigh for the past))

stevesuk

1,182 posts

148 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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generationx said:
It sounded absolutely epic, ((deep sigh for the past))
Reading an interview, and apparently he lapped in the 1 minute 39s today, equivalent to Lewis Hamilton's fastest lap during the race last year.

That's progress then - a 15 year old car with just a few laps of running, on presumably less than optimal settings - is as quick as the fastest car
in race trim last year smile I'm not an expert in these things - but I imagine a testing programme to optimise the car to today's tyres, and to tune the settings for the circuit, and it would be quicker still.

People have said that the racing was no more exciting back then - and perhaps they're right. But as an overall package of entertainment?

Edited by stevesuk on Saturday 12th December 19:16

thegreenhell

8,670 posts

185 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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generationx said:
It sounded absolutely epic, ((deep sigh for the past))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hol6eel1uME

jsf

22,699 posts

202 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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stevesuk said:
Reading an interview, and apparently he lapped in the 1 minute 39s today, equivalent to Lewis Hamilton's fastest lap during the race last year.

That's progress then - a 15 year old car with just a few laps of running, on presumably less than optimal settings - is as quick as the fastest car
in race trim last year smile I'm not an expert in these things - but I imagine a testing programme to optimise the car to today's tyres, and to tune the settings for the circuit, and it would be quicker still.

People have said that the racing was no more exciting back then - and perhaps they're right. But as an overall package of entertainment?

Edited by stevesuk on Saturday 12th December 19:16
The cars are built to a Formula, hence the name of the series, Formula 1. If the engineers were left to it the cars would be much faster.
This is why comparing cars from different era's needs to understand the rules applied at the time are what sets the pace potential.