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jsf

22,999 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th April
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Eric Mc said:
The noise - wow.

There was a book written on the development of the Cosworth DFV. It was called "Such Sweet Thunder". I can see now why it was called that.
DFV's are rough as a badgers arse, they shake things to bits. In the early days suspension used to fall off DFV engined cars. laugh

Eric Mc

115,499 posts

232 months

Thursday 29th April
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The Lotus 49, being a Lotus, definitely had bits fall off in the early days.

paua

2,630 posts

110 months

Thursday 29th April
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Eric Mc said:
The Lotus 49, being a Lotus, definitely had bits fall off in the early days.
That's not exclusive to the 49. They all do that, sir.

Eric Mc

115,499 posts

232 months

Thursday 29th April
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All racing cars or all Lotuses? Lotus had a reputation - which was guaranteed to wind up Colin Chapman if it was pointed out to him.

paua

2,630 posts

110 months

Thursday 29th April
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Loti in particular.

Eric Mc

115,499 posts

232 months

Thursday 29th April
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I've never been sure what the plural of "Lotus" is. It would only be "Loti" if it is Latin.

TheDeuce

10,040 posts

33 months

Thursday 29th April
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Eric Mc said:
I've never been sure what the plural of "Lotus" is. It would only be "Loti" if it is Latin.
From the Lotus' mouth:


Eric Mc

115,499 posts

232 months

Thursday 29th April
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Nothing beats source documents. Do you know what date that would have been issued? They very inconveniently inserted the word "immediate" in the "date" area.

I'm not seeing any reference to the Seven so it must be post 1973.

TheDeuce

10,040 posts

33 months

Thursday 29th April
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Eric Mc said:
Nothing beats source documents. Do you know what date that would have been issued? They very inconveniently inserted the word "immediate" in the "date" area.

I'm not seeing any reference to the Seven so it must be post 1973.
Details here, sounds like it was issued in the 60's: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/british/psa-appar...

What's interesting is that if you refer to the Lotus flower, the plural is indeed Loti. But in terms of their product, it's their name and up to them I guess!

Alan Partridge would say, the plural of Lexus is Lexi. I believe that one is yet to be refuted by Lexus. Or they may simply not give a st smile


thegreenhell

9,033 posts

186 months

Thursday 29th April
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I thought it was as simple as being a proper noun in the name of the company, and hence not modifying the base word for the plural.

TheDeuce

10,040 posts

33 months

Thursday 29th April
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thegreenhell said:
I thought it was as simple as being a proper noun in the name of the company, and hence not modifying the base word for the plural.
Yes that's true, and as such Lotus (car) could correctly become Lotuses, but not Loti, were it not for the fact that the owners of the name have in this instance stated that in plural form Lotus is simply Lotus, they have established that. In the same way that it is established by nothing other than history and duration of use that the plural of sheep, is simply sheep. There is no particular reason that it could not be 'sheeps'.

However, in almost all brand literature and press releases from various marques concerning their products, they add the word 'cars' or 'motorcars' after their name. "all Ford cars since the Model T" blah blah.. "The Rolls Royce range or motorcars represents" blah blah..

Eric Mc

115,499 posts

232 months

Thursday 29th April
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James Hunt used to use the term "Loti" when commentating - probably just to wind Chapman and the team up smile

If that letter is pre 1973 it's interesting that they failed to mention the Sevens in their product line up. By 1966 Lotus really wanted to get rid of the thing so they were probably reluctant to admit publicly that they were still making Sevens.

thegreenhell

9,033 posts

186 months

Friday 7th May
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Spanish GP weekend, so here's some remastered HD footage of the opening laps of the 1991 race, the first on this then-new circuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB70sdliEu0

Race report - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Spanish_Grand_P...

Edited by thegreenhell on Friday 7th May 23:53

Eric Mc

115,499 posts

232 months

Friday 7th May
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Video blocked it says.

thegreenhell

9,033 posts

186 months

Friday 7th May
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Eric Mc said:
Video blocked it says.
Apologies, it just didn't like being embedded. It works directly on youtube.

Eric Mc

115,499 posts

232 months

Saturday 8th May
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I'll give it a go again. Some of these "enhanced" videos look a bit weird. The colours seem over-intense.