The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

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MartG

20,689 posts

205 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Vaud

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50,584 posts

156 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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MartG said:
Very healthy to cast the net wide and see who is interested. Global sport and Hankook are the 7th largest tyre brand in the world.

It may just be noise, but I have heard worse ideas.

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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MartG said:
should make it linglong, sort out those who can really drive and they can push as hard as they like. Probably get a season out of a set too so meets the cost cutting idea.

thegreenhell

15,389 posts

220 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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hairyben said:
should make it linglong, sort out those who can really drive and they can push as hard as they like. Probably get a season out of a set too so meets the cost cutting idea.
Only if they replace the tarmac runoff with ditches at the side of the track.

thegreenhell

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220 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Mark Hughes thinks the Red Bull Honda deal is likely

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/f1/mph-...

"The expectation is that Red Bull and Honda will announce a two-year partnership (taking it to the end of the current formula), probably in the lead-up to the team’s ‘home’ Grand Prix of Austria."

MartG

20,689 posts

205 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Now he's ticked Le Mans off his list, anyone else think it even more likely now that Alonso will be off to Indycars next year ?

KevinCamaroSS

11,641 posts

281 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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MartG said:
Now he's ticked Le Mans off his list, anyone else think it even more likely now that Alonso will be off to Indycars next year ?
Bit of a hollow 'victory' don't you think? Given that only 2 cars (both from the same team) had any chance of winning with the heavily biased rules currently in operation. Still, it is a tick I suppose.

Angpozzuto

965 posts

110 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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As this is the silly season thread what are the chances of Toyota coming back to f1 after their win at Le Mans with alonso as their lead driver?

37chevy

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157 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Bit of a hollow 'victory' don't you think? Given that only 2 cars (both from the same team) had any chance of winning with the heavily biased rules currently in operation. Still, it is a tick I suppose.
I’m not an Alonso fan, but this wasn’t a hollow victory. Toyota committed to Le Mans, it’s not their fault others didn’t. Yes they were quickest but still had to race the track and 60 other competitors for 24 hours, reliability issues or incidents with backmarkers can destroy your race at any point

37chevy

3,280 posts

157 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Angpozzuto said:
As this is the silly season thread what are the chances of Toyota coming back to f1 after their win at Le Mans with alonso as their lead driver?
No.

sandman77

2,422 posts

139 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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MartG said:
Now he's ticked Le Mans off his list, anyone else think it even more likely now that Alonso will be off to Indycars next year ?
I really hope so. I would miss him if he left F1 but he really is wasting his time (and talent) driving in F1 for McLaren. Winning the triple crown seems quite important to him and I would like to see him do it.

MartG

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205 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Bit of a hollow 'victory' don't you think? Given that only 2 cars (both from the same team) had any chance of winning with the heavily biased rules currently in operation. Still, it is a tick I suppose.
Not Toyota's fault the other LMP1-H competitors left the series

slipstream 1985

12,229 posts

180 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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MartG said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
Bit of a hollow 'victory' don't you think? Given that only 2 cars (both from the same team) had any chance of winning with the heavily biased rules currently in operation. Still, it is a tick I suppose.
Not Toyota's fault the other LMP1-H competitors left the series
He'd be f1 world champ if it were only mclaren and williams this season

37chevy

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157 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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slipstream 1985 said:
He'd be f1 world champ if it were only mclaren and williams this season
Wouldn’t be so sure!

Vaud

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156 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Bit of a hollow 'victory' don't you think? Given that only 2 cars (both from the same team) had any chance of winning with the heavily biased rules currently in operation. Still, it is a tick I suppose.
Not really, no.

KevinCamaroSS

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281 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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37chevy said:
I’m not an Alonso fan, but this wasn’t a hollow victory. Toyota committed to Le Mans, it’s not their fault others didn’t. Yes they were quickest but still had to race the track and 60 other competitors for 24 hours, reliability issues or incidents with backmarkers can destroy your race at any point
To me it was, the whole rule structure is biased towards hybrids, if only one hybrid team competes they win. Rules such as if a non-hybrid car laps faster than a hybrid it gets a drive-through penalty, hybrids being allowed to do more laps between pit-stops, pit-stops being shorter (minimum times) means it is not a race provided the car stays together.

Kraken

1,710 posts

201 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Bit of a hollow 'victory' don't you think? Given that only 2 cars (both from the same team) had any chance of winning with the heavily biased rules currently in operation. Still, it is a tick I suppose.
Did you say the same all the years Audi won as the only factory team or when Bentley won as the same? You can only beat what is out there and if other manufacturers want to run off with their ball it's not Toyotas fault.

thegreenhell

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220 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
To me it was, the whole rule structure is biased towards hybrids, if only one hybrid team competes they win. Rules such as if a non-hybrid car laps faster than a hybrid it gets a drive-through penalty, hybrids being allowed to do more laps between pit-stops, pit-stops being shorter (minimum times) means it is not a race provided the car stays together.
Le Mans rules have been biased for years, towards whichever agenda or team the ACO want to promote. Before hybrids it was heavily biased towards diesels. That being said, it's still an achievement to race race for 24 hours, and as we saw just last year, if you drop the ball even slightly, there's always a privateer team nipping at your heels trying to steal a potential win.

BOP is completely artificial too, striving to equalise the performance of cars that are plainly not equal, the teams playing a game of sandbagging to get the best handicap they can. The fastest car come race day is the one who plays this game the best, not necessarily the best car.

If you focus too much on the regulations then you'll never enjoy it for what it is - a 24 hour test of man and machine against the track.

suffolk009

5,425 posts

166 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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MartG said:
Now he's ticked Le Mans off his list, anyone else think it even more likely now that Alonso will be off to Indycars next year ?
I think it's almost a dead-cert. McLaren will want to retain him and build an Indy team around him (America is their biggest market for road cars). I wonder if he'll want to continue in WEC? I doubt just winning LeMans as a rookie will do, he'd probably like to be champion in WEC. And next year set about winning the 500. Then maybe the Indy championship.

In fact I can see him just travelling the motorsport world hoovering up championships all over the place. He'd probably like to win the Dakar (although that's not what it was). Then eventually he'll end up doing BTCC at Thruxton when there's nothing else to win.

thegreenhell

15,389 posts

220 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Nobody has yet done the Monaco GP and Monte Carlo Rally double, although a few drivers have competed in both. Then he should try riding a bike in the TT...