The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

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thegreenhell

15,415 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Ericsson confirms his move to Indycar https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/ericsson-m...

Also, Kubica in the frame as simulator driver for Ferrari, to replace both Kvyat and Giovinazzi who are leaving the red team to race for others next year.

Vaud

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50,611 posts

156 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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thegreenhell said:
Also, Kubica in the frame as simulator driver for Ferrari, to replace both Kvyat and Giovinazzi who are leaving the red team to race for others next year.
Yes but only as simulator driver.

According to motorsport, Giovinazzi would be called up should either Sebastian Vettel or Charles Leclerc be unavailable (even though he is signed to Sauber)

nyxster

1,452 posts

172 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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thegreenhell said:
Ericsson confirms his move to Indycar https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/ericsson-m...

Also, Kubica in the frame as simulator driver for Ferrari, to replace both Kvyat and Giovinazzi who are leaving the red team to race for others next year.
Strange turn of events given Ericsson’s backers bought Sauber.

I wonder if they are prepping towards Alfa Romeo buying them out and turning it into a works team.

CedricN

820 posts

146 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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nyxster said:
Strange turn of events given Ericsson’s backers bought Sauber.

I wonder if they are prepping towards Alfa Romeo buying them out and turning it into a works team.
The red ones are already dictating the the team, and have already taken over the sauber from longbow finance.

They wanted an italian in the car, so they fixed that. It will be fun to follow indy next year, of course to see what marcus can do, but mostly to follow the biggest supertalent from sweden, Felix rosenqvist, which seems to be able to drive any car in the world fast as hell. To bad he havent had the same economical backing..OK, now it went a bit OT smile






Vaud

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50,611 posts

156 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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CedricN said:
The red ones are already dictating the the team, and have already taken over the sauber from longbow finance.
Was it confirmed that Islero Investments = Ferrari, or is it a private investor?

FourWheelDrift

88,557 posts

285 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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Vaud said:
CedricN said:
The red ones are already dictating the the team, and have already taken over the sauber from longbow finance.
Was it confirmed that Islero Investments = Ferrari, or is it a private investor?
Islero Directors.

Alessandro Alunni Bravi - Lawyer involved with Nicolas Todt managing F1 drivers.
Pascal Picci - Longbow
Finn Rausing - TetraPak
Frederic Vasseur - Sauber
Ernst Joseph Walch - partner in the Liechtenstein law firm Walch & Schurti representing the unknown quantity that we all know anyway.

Vaud

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50,611 posts

156 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
Islero Directors.

Alessandro Alunni Bravi - Lawyer involved with Nicolas Todt managing F1 drivers.
Pascal Picci - Longbow
Finn Rausing - TetraPak
Frederic Vasseur - Sauber
Ernst Joseph Walch - partner in the Liechtenstein law firm Walch & Schurti representing the unknown quantity that we all know anyway.
I often wondered if the stalking horse might not be Ferrari, but Bernie building a position with Ferrari to stir things up for the next negotiations.

CedricN

820 posts

146 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
Islero Directors.

Alessandro Alunni Bravi - Lawyer involved with Nicolas Todt managing F1 drivers.
Pascal Picci - Longbow
Finn Rausing - TetraPak
Frederic Vasseur - Sauber
Ernst Joseph Walch - partner in the Liechtenstein law firm Walch & Schurti representing the unknown quantity that we all know anyway.
Didnt realize Rausing was in Islero aswell, but he might bail out now i guess. Quite a strange set of people otherwise, I guess there wont be any info regarding where money comes from, only guesses smile

Geoffrey 321

236 posts

67 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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carl_w said:
Danny Ric doesn't see the point in driving the RB at the next two races https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ricciardo-helpl...
He sure has had bad luck this year weeping

RichB

51,622 posts

285 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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Geoffrey 321 said:
carl_w said:
Danny Ric doesn't see the point in driving the RB at the next two races https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ricciardo-helpl...
He sure has had bad luck this year weeping
It would be funny to see Horner's face if he's true to his word.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,615 posts

273 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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RichB said:
t would be funny to see Horner's face if he's true to his word.
He's contractually obliged to get in the car and drive it around a bit during FP, quali, and the race.


Vaud

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156 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
He's contractually obliged to get in the car and drive it around a bit during FP, quali, and the race.
Contracts only go so far.

You cannot force a driver to get in the cockpit and race.
You can penalise them according to set penalties in the contract.
You can prevent them racing elsewhere.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,615 posts

273 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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Vaud said:
Contracts only go so far.

You cannot force a driver to get in the cockpit and race.
You can penalise them according to set penalties in the contract.
You can prevent them racing elsewhere.
I never said anything to the contrary. I just pointed out that he is contractually obliged.

There's nothing to stop him getting in the car, doing the bare minimum (including not getting through Q3), and not making much of an effort in the race.

But he won't. Because he's a racer.

Mikey G

4,734 posts

241 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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RichB said:
Geoffrey 321 said:
carl_w said:
Danny Ric doesn't see the point in driving the RB at the next two races https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ricciardo-helpl...
He sure has had bad luck this year weeping
It would be funny to see Horner's face if he's true to his word.
Cursed RedBull cars only seem to be given to Aussies...

RichB

51,622 posts

285 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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Gaz. said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Vaud said:
Contracts only go so far.
You cannot force a driver to get in the cockpit and race.
You can penalise them according to set penalties in the contract.
You can prevent them racing elsewhere.
I never said anything to the contrary. I just pointed out that he is contractually obliged. There's nothing to stop him getting in the car, doing the bare minimum (including not getting through Q3), and not making much of an effort in the race. But he won't. Because he's a racer.
It wouldn't surprise me if Gasly drives his car in that final races.
It would me but it would love to see Ricciardo walk away...

MissChief

7,115 posts

169 months

Wednesday 31st October 2018
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RichB said:
Gaz. said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Vaud said:
Contracts only go so far.
You cannot force a driver to get in the cockpit and race.
You can penalise them according to set penalties in the contract.
You can prevent them racing elsewhere.
I never said anything to the contrary. I just pointed out that he is contractually obliged. There's nothing to stop him getting in the car, doing the bare minimum (including not getting through Q3), and not making much of an effort in the race. But he won't. Because he's a racer.
It wouldn't surprise me if Gasly drives his car in that final races.
It would me but it would love to see Ricciardo walk away...
Or they 'punish' Ricciardo with punting him to Toro Rosso for two races and put Gasly in the RB?

l354uge

2,895 posts

122 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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MissChief said:
RichB said:
Gaz. said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Vaud said:
Contracts only go so far.
You cannot force a driver to get in the cockpit and race.
You can penalise them according to set penalties in the contract.
You can prevent them racing elsewhere.
I never said anything to the contrary. I just pointed out that he is contractually obliged. There's nothing to stop him getting in the car, doing the bare minimum (including not getting through Q3), and not making much of an effort in the race. But he won't. Because he's a racer.
It wouldn't surprise me if Gasly drives his car in that final races.
It would me but it would love to see Ricciardo walk away...
Or they 'punish' Ricciardo with punting him to Toro Rosso for two races and put Gasly in the RB?
To be honest, toro rosso need the points alot more than rb right now, could mean an extra few million if Dan can get them higher up...

thegreenhell

15,415 posts

220 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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There's not a chance in hell that you'll see Ricciardo in a Toro Rosso this season. Apart from anything else, Red Bull won't want him gaining any knowledge of the Honda PU to take away with him to Renault.

andburg

7,296 posts

170 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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we will not see any driver changes this year

carl_w

9,196 posts

259 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Looks like Fred Alonso has got himself a faster car for after the Abu Dhabi GP: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/139828/alonsojoh...