The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

[anonymous-user]

Vaud said:

Not yet announced. Which in itself is slightly perplexing.

Just bizarre

[anonymous-user]

jsf said:

Sorry to see that about Brendon, he made Gasly look ordinay in the last half of the year and Gasly showed he is a whiney git to boot, who couldn't give credit when it was due.

Red Bull's throw them away mantra strikes again.

Brendon will get a decent drive elsewhere, most likely somewhere he will be appreciated.

Gasly seemed to switch off as soon as the Red Bull deal was done.

On the other hand, Brendon had to still prove himself to the team.

Unfortunately, I don't personally feel Brendon did enough to stay at Toro Rosso.

[FourWheelDrift]

Vaud said:

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Thought Stroll was announced at Racing Stroll India?

Not yet announced. Which in itself is slightly perplexing.

His name is down to be testing the Force India this afternoon at the post season test and again tomorrow.

Tuesday 27th November

Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas
Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel
Red Bull: Max Verstappen
Force India: Sergio Perez (AM), Lance Stroll (PM)
Williams: George Russell (AM), Robert Kubica (PM)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg
Toro Rosso: Sean Gelael
Haas: Pietro Fittipaldi
McLaren: Lando Norris
Sauber: Kimi Raikkonen

Wednesday 28th November

Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas
Ferrari: Charles Leclerc
Red Bull: Pierre Gasly
Force India: Lance Stroll
Williams: Robert Kubica (AM), George Russell (PM)
Renault: Artem Markelov
Toro Rosso: Daniil Kvyat
Haas: Louis Deletraz
McLaren: Carlos Sainz Jr.
Sauber: Antonio Giovinazzi

[thegreenhell]

Maybe it's just so obvious that they don't feel the need to make an official announcement.

[Deesee]

thegreenhell said:

Maybe it's just so obvious that they don't feel the need to make an official announcement.

Like this

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1067358539432296449

I suppose Ocon/Stroll similar size for a spare set of overalls.

Edit, Although, the RP offer was to 'rescue' the team rather than simply buy the assets (which actually did not happen they bought the assets anyway), and there were higher bids to simply buy the assets, so there could be further legal action for FI/RP. Which could be the reason why there has not been a formal unveiling yet.

Edited by Deesee on Tuesday 27th November 12:31

[London424]

HardtopManual said:

London424 said:

There's a much much easier way of doing this and it goes something like...

You MUST pitstop and change tyres at least twice during the race.

You don't mix up the strategies by forcing everyone to do the same number of pitstops.

But you are forcing them out of a 1 stop which is what people were complaining about.

[The Surveyor]

London424 said:

HardtopManual said:

London424 said:

There's a much much easier way of doing this and it goes something like...

You MUST pitstop and change tyres at least twice during the race.

You don't mix up the strategies by forcing everyone to do the same number of pitstops.

But you are forcing them out of a 1 stop which is what people were complaining about.

The easier adjustment would be to switch the tyre selection you have to start the race with from the Q2 session to the Q3 tyre. They should start the race on the tyre they achieved their grid position on. Stop the option of the top-teams running a medium-soft tyre in Q2 to go-long at the start of the race when heavy with fuel when all the chasing cars are running on hyper-softs and having to stop early.

[Deesee]

Lance Strolls race helmet from the Abu Dhabi test.



(So there a little bit of budget for this rather than the stickered up T-shirt’s) and nicked a sponsor from willliams.

Quick on the old hypersofts too

[Dodgey_Rog]

I couldn't think where I'd heard the name Albon before, then a google search brought up a pretty interesting family past. Father was a racing driver, his mother though.......

[Vaud]

Dodgey_Rog said:

I couldn't think where I'd heard the name Albon before, then a google search brought up a pretty interesting family past. Father was a racing driver, his mother though.......

Ah yes... and wiki, etc are strangely silent on the topic...

[Bullitt Five-Oh]

Vaud said:

Dodgey_Rog said:

I couldn't think where I'd heard the name Albon before, then a google search brought up a pretty interesting family past. Father was a racing driver, his mother though.......

Ah yes... and wiki, etc are strangely silent on the topic...

Very cryptic, no need to be shy about it.

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/sudbury-fraudster-to-b...

"while Albon was on bail during the police inquiry it was discovered the mother-of-five had also been fiddling the taxman."

I wouldn't mind being fiddled by her to be honest. Not sure why that specific taxman complained about it.

[rdjohn]

London424 said:

HardtopManual said:

London424 said:

There's a much much easier way of doing this and it goes something like...

You MUST pitstop and change tyres at least twice during the race.

You don't mix up the strategies by forcing everyone to do the same number of pitstops.

But you are forcing them out of a 1 stop which is what people were complaining about.

But mostly you are forcing these brilliant drivers to drive the nuts off the car.

I think that Hartley this year has shown just how special F1 drivers really are. For someone like Lewiis to be driving to a Delta 4s off the cars potential race-pace is such a waste of talent. Sure they are experts at managing scarce resources, but WEC does that in a much better way.

It is pointless having 1000bhp cars that do extraordinary single laps in Q3 and then effectively potter round once they have switched-out of their Lap-1 race mode.

Forcing teams to potentially lose track position at Monaco would liven that race up many fold, it might even make the outcome unpredictable. RIC pottering round with no KERS this year without coming under any threat shows that something different is needed.

Fans should be on the edge of their seats and not seeing how a strategy worked out on the simulator is played-out.

[anonymous-user]

You cant overtake at Monaco, so not really much use as a reference.

[Mr Pointy]

Hartley maybe a bit bitter about being dumped:

“I also want to thank my trainer Rich and almost all of the 500 strong Toro Rosso staff who I have stood beside and have enjoyed working with this season"

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/brendon-hartley...

[paua]

Mr Pointy said:

Hartley maybe a bit bitter about being dumped:

“I also want to thank my trainer Rich and almost all of the 500 strong Toro Rosso staff who I have stood beside and have enjoyed working with this season"

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/brendon-hartley...

He probably has some justification in feeling a tad miffed.

[Bullitt Five-Oh]

The way TR and RB handle their drivers like they were a commodity makes me a bit sick. And it looks like Albon and Kvyat are another set of stop gaps for 2019.

And that's why I'm happy for Ricciardo and seeing Horner's little whiny face clearly upset over being handled like a bh made me very happy indeed (they like to dish out but they clearly can't take it).

[rdjohn]

jsf said:

You cant overtake at Monaco, so not really much use as a reference.

Motorsport magazine

That and the fact that it was a seriously tyre-limited race. So Ricciardo’s pursuers were having to back off hugely to keep their tyres in shape long enough to stay on a one-stop strategy and therefore not give up Monaco gold dust of track position.

If you have the tyres and the delta, you can overtake. But teams always go for a one-stop so as not to lose track position. That is much harder to manage with two-stops.

https://f1bytes.com/monaco-gp-form-guide

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Bullitt Five-Oh said:

The way TR and RB handle their drivers like they were a commodity makes me a bit sick.

The way that Frank Williams treated drivers like interchangeable cogs, and dumped them the moment they got a WDC, used to make me sick.

Plus ca change, plus ca meme chose.

[Vaud]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

The way that Frank Williams treated drivers like interchangeable cogs, and dumped them the moment they got a WDC, used to make me sick.

And yet he was still able to attract the best - even through they had seen what had gone before. They wanted the fastest car, he would provide one and pay them, they drove it. It was a very transactional relationship, I felt mildly irked but the major characters (with significant egos and legal advice, etc) can fend for themselves.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Vaud said:

And yet he was still able to attract the best - even through they had seen what had gone before. They wanted the fastest car, he would provide one and pay them, they drove it. It was a very transactional relationship, I felt mildly irked but the major characters (with significant egos and legal advice, etc) can fend for themselves.

I completely agree.

To be honest, "mildly irked" describes my feelings far better, but I was replying in the same vein as the post I was quoting.