The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

[Vaud]

carl_w said:

idn't he go straight from FRenault to F1? Had to get an exemption from the FIA to get a superlicence.

Wikipedia suggests 23 car races prior to F1: 1999 British FRenault Winter Series and 2000 FRenault UK Championship, winning 13 out of 23 events.

Different era, different rules?

[thegreenhell]

Also, Kimi never overtook a whole field of cars behind the safety car to deliberately ram a competitor off the road. Despite serving his penalty for that, he's a marked man.

[Deesee]

Or turning up, like he think a world champion elect..

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/F1...

But instead he’s a total .....

Own thread needed I’d say...

[thegreenhell]

Dick Tantrum

[carl_w]

Deesee said:

Or turning up, like he think a world champion elect..

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/F1...

But instead he’s a total .....

Own thread needed I’d say...

This comment seems to sum it up:

level 1
Antonio Giovinazzi
CradlePouncer
46 points
·
10 days ago
>secures Red Bull backing
>requires a few superlicence points
>enters seemingly easy series with the intention of dominating
>gets schooled by much less experienced drivers
>throws his toys out of the pram

[37chevy]

Mr Pointy said:

The FIA really don't like Dan Ticktum do they:

https://www.motorsport.com/f3/news/ticktum-asian-w...

Good.

The lads an arse.

Used his car as a weapon under yellow flag/ safety car, nearly killed some marshals, accused his title rivals of cheating.

I’m glad his career is being hindered, it means his punishment was fitting despite his dads and red bulls best efforts and money to accelerate him into F1

[Teddy Lop]

37chevy said:

Mr Pointy said:

The FIA really don't like Dan Ticktum do they:

https://www.motorsport.com/f3/news/ticktum-asian-w...

Good.

The lads an arse.

Used his car as a weapon under yellow flag/ safety car, nearly killed some marshals, accused his title rivals of cheating.

I’m glad his career is being hindered, it means his punishment was fitting despite his dads and red bulls best efforts and money to accelerate him into F1

he seems someone who could really benefit from some time in gp2 to mature as both a racer and a man but red bull seem determined to fast-track him past the grounding stages somehow. The mrs said to me with max and now dan, and horner being all lippy every time he opens his trap, its like red bull are deliberately cultivating a thug image.

[FourWheelDrift]

carl_w said:

This comment seems to sum it up:

level 1
Antonio Giovinazzi
CradlePouncer
46 points
·
10 days ago
>secures Red Bull backing
>requires a few superlicence points
>enters seemingly easy series with the intention of dominating
>gets schooled by much less experienced drivers
>throws his toys out of the pram

Made me check the standings.....oh....my.....god !!! - I didn't know Ralf had a son too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_F3_Asian_Champi...

[37chevy]

Teddy Lop said:

he seems someone who could really benefit from some time in gp2 to mature as both a racer and a man but red bull seem determined to fast-track him past the grounding stages somehow. The mrs said to me with max and now dan, and horner being all lippy every time he opens his trap, its like red bull are deliberately cultivating a thug image.

Indeed. I’m confused at why they have chosen super formula over F2 in 2019 too, given that will probably be his last junior category before F1, you’d think they would want him in F2

[Teddy Lop]

37chevy said:

Teddy Lop said:

he seems someone who could really benefit from some time in gp2 to mature as both a racer and a man but red bull seem determined to fast-track him past the grounding stages somehow. The mrs said to me with max and now dan, and horner being all lippy every time he opens his trap, its like red bull are deliberately cultivating a thug image.

Indeed. I’m confused at why they have chosen super formula over F2 in 2019 too, given that will probably be his last junior category before F1, you’d think they would want him in F2

you think he'll complete a season? Methinks they only want the points then bye bye kvyat (again), maybe SF makes this easier than F2.

[Mark-C]

37chevy said:

Teddy Lop said:

he seems someone who could really benefit from some time in gp2 to mature as both a racer and a man but red bull seem determined to fast-track him past the grounding stages somehow. The mrs said to me with max and now dan, and horner being all lippy every time he opens his trap, its like red bull are deliberately cultivating a thug image.

Indeed. I’m confused at why they have chosen super formula over F2 in 2019 too, given that will probably be his last junior category before F1, you’d think they would want him in F2

Not the way he's going in his current series. Doesn't look like he's ready.

Maybe we can revisit this in the 2021 speculation thread?

[37chevy]

Mark-C said:

37chevy said:

Teddy Lop said:

he seems someone who could really benefit from some time in gp2 to mature as both a racer and a man but red bull seem determined to fast-track him past the grounding stages somehow. The mrs said to me with max and now dan, and horner being all lippy every time he opens his trap, its like red bull are deliberately cultivating a thug image.

Indeed. I’m confused at why they have chosen super formula over F2 in 2019 too, given that will probably be his last junior category before F1, you’d think they would want him in F2

Not the way he's going in his current series. Doesn't look like he's ready.

Maybe we can revisit this in the 2021 speculation thread?

This is true. Might have something to do with Honda too

[patmahe]

thegreenhell said:

Ferrari have reportedly signed Pascal Wehrlein as development driver, to replace the departing Giovinazzi and Kvyat.

I'd almost forgotten about Pascal, remember when he was in the running for the second seat at Mercedes? Shows how fickle F1 can be because he seemed handy enough. Did he and Toto fall out or something because it seems strange for him to be released completely by Mercedes.

[37chevy]

patmahe said:

I'd almost forgotten about Pascal, remember when he was in the running for the second seat at Mercedes? Shows how fickle F1 can be because he seemed handy enough. Did he and Toto fall out or something because it seems strange for him to be released completely by Mercedes.

Reports/ rumours at the time were that he had an attitude. With that, lack of seats and Ocon on the way up it seemed like Ocon was the safer bet

[Vaud]

37chevy said:

Reports/ rumours at the time were that he had an attitude. With that, lack of seats and Ocon on the way up it seemed like Ocon was the safer bet

That is what I heard as well. In an Ocon/Pascal choice, Ocon was viewed as being the better team player.

[MissChief]

Vaud said:

37chevy said:

Reports/ rumours at the time were that he had an attitude. With that, lack of seats and Ocon on the way up it seemed like Ocon was the safer bet

That is what I heard as well. In an Ocon/Pascal choice, Ocon was viewed as being the better team player.

Williams certainly turned down the offer of him in a seat when they were offered him, preferring to go with their own choice, Sirotkin.

[HustleRussell]

MissChief said:

Williams certainly turned down the offer of him in a seat when they were offered him, preferring to go with their own choice, Sirotkin.

Do you really think it was as simple as that?

[MissChief]

HustleRussell said:

MissChief said:

Williams certainly turned down the offer of him in a seat when they were offered him, preferring to go with their own choice, Sirotkin.

Do you really think it was as simple as that?

Given that Force India went for Ocon given the choice between the two as well certainly makes me believe he has an attitude issue.

[HustleRussell]

MissChief said:

HustleRussell said:

MissChief said:

Williams certainly turned down the offer of him in a seat when they were offered him, preferring to go with their own choice, Sirotkin.

Do you really think it was as simple as that?

Given that Force India went for Ocon given the choice between the two as well certainly makes me believe he has an attitude issue.

Wehrlein may indeed have an attitude problem but still I maintain that driver selection (with reference to Wehrlein vs. Sirotkin at Williams) is not as simple as picking the driver they ‘prefer’. There are millions of reasons for Williams to pick Sirotkin over Wehrlein which mostly have nothing to do with driving.

[housen]

HustleRussell said:

MissChief said:

HustleRussell said:

MissChief said:

Williams certainly turned down the offer of him in a seat when they were offered him, preferring to go with their own choice, Sirotkin.

Do you really think it was as simple as that?

Given that Force India went for Ocon given the choice between the two as well certainly makes me believe he has an attitude issue.

Wehrlein may indeed have an attitude problem but still I maintain that driver selection (with reference to Wehrlein vs. Sirotkin at Williams) is not as simple as picking the driver they ‘prefer’. There are millions of reasons for Williams to pick Sirotkin over Wehrlein which mostly have nothing to do with driving.

yup look at the greatest driver in modern f1 ....Alonso....now he must have been a total cnt to work with given where he ended up