The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

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Vaud

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50,650 posts

156 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Stan the Bat said:
thegreenhell said:
Vaud said:
My take is that they didn't swap them because of Austria 2002 - I think it was to avoid bad PR.
When has that ever held them back from following their own agenda?
Exactly, very strange.
No idea. It's just my hypothesis.

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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thegreenhell said:
Vaud said:
My take is that they didn't swap them because of Austria 2002 - I think it was to avoid bad PR.
When has that ever held them back from following their own agenda?
precisely.

Team orders were "banned" because of the quite remarkable behaviour of ferrari in using them.

Team orders were re-permitted because the fia felt ferraris blatant breaking their rule was quite embarrassing.

Did I miss anything?

Vaud

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50,650 posts

156 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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hairyben said:
precisely.

Team orders were "banned" because of the quite remarkable behaviour of ferrari in using them.

Team orders were re-permitted because the fia felt ferraris blatant breaking their rule was quite embarrassing.

Did I miss anything?
Other than lots of teams have used team orders in blatant ways, yes... wink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_orders

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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https://www.crash.net/f1/news/900416/1/assen-would...

How to ruin a brilliant track.

Please Assen don't do it.


MissChief

7,126 posts

169 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
https://www.crash.net/f1/news/900416/1/assen-would...

How to ruin a brilliant track.

Please Assen don't do it.
I have to agree. it wouldn't make a very good F1 track as it's designed as a bike track first and foremost. Sweeping curves and changing radii. Circuits designed for cars initially are all 'stop/start' with straights and constant radius corners. For that reason alone much of Assen would be single file in an F1 car which very little scope to get alongside at all.

Assen really isn't wide enough either. Some places you'd be lucky to get two cars wide. And I remember much of Assen certainly used to have a 'crown' on it to help with drainage. I know it's been changed and resurfaced quite a bit since then but I don't know if it's uniformly flat now.

Assen would be ruined by F1.

oyster

12,615 posts

249 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Vaud said:
My take is that they didn't swap them because of Austria 2002 - I think it was to avoid bad PR.
Kimi's points total is such that if Vettel were to have a couple of DNFs, then Ferrari might have to spread their eggs across 2 baskets.

I think if we were 4 or 5 races further into the season then things might have been different.

Vaud

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Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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oyster said:
Vaud said:
My take is that they didn't swap them because of Austria 2002 - I think it was to avoid bad PR.
Kimi's points total is such that if Vettel were to have a couple of DNFs, then Ferrari might have to spread their eggs across 2 baskets.

I think if we were 4 or 5 races further into the season then things might have been different.
True.

cuprabob

14,716 posts

215 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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If they would have swapped them over, all the post race PR would have been focused on that action rather than the Mercedes double retirement plus I don't think Vettel woukd want to win the championship in that manner. In the same way, if Bottas was leading and Hamilton was behind him, he wouldn't want Bottas to move over.

MissChief

7,126 posts

169 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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If Mercedes were still in the race and Hamilton was ahead I suspect they'd have swapped, but with both Mercedes out of the race they took the points in the WCC.

carl_w

9,201 posts

259 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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cuprabob said:
plus I don't think Vettel woukd want to win the championship in that manner.
LOL

Stan the Bat

8,943 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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carl_w said:
cuprabob said:
plus I don't think Vettel woukd want to win the championship in that manner.
LOL
Treble LOL.

Dr Z

3,396 posts

172 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Do we think McLaren appointing Andrea Stella to manage track operations and Gil de Ferran as Sporting Director means Alonso is likely to stay at McLaren for another year or two?

It was good to see them using him effectively as a test driver all of Friday at Austria. He is a huge asset to the team precisely because they can lean a bit more on his vast talents like this and still expect him to deliver on a Saturday & Sunday. By contrast, I doubt they can do this with a Vandoorne or another rookie (potentially Norris).

thegreenhell

15,471 posts

220 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Dr Z said:
Do we think McLaren appointing Andrea Stella to manage track operations and Gil de Ferran as Sporting Director means Alonso is likely to stay at McLaren for another year or two?
Having read that Brown 'consulted extensively' with Alonso around this latest shakeup, along with the rumour that McLaren have put their Indycar plans on hold, makes it almost certain that Alonso must be staying on in F1. Despite his obvious frustrations, he surely feels that he has unfinished business with the sport, and may be hoping they can get their act together for the new aero rules next season.

thegreenhell

15,471 posts

220 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Andrew Benson, contributing to the BBC Radio 5 live sports extra, has been very strong this morning on Kimi Raikkonen's future in F1.

"Charles Leclerc will be in the Ferrari next year," Benson says. "They've decided that. Raikkonen will be out. That was decided in Austria. I've had further conformation of it this morning."

"It's because Leclerc has proved after nine races this season that he is a megastar in the making. They've decided that now's the time. And Raikkonen's been a bit lukewarm and inconsistent as usual."

MartG

20,702 posts

205 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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On top of the news about the F1 season being extended to include '10%' more races comes a possibility of extending the points structure down to 20th place.

Personally I think this is a good idea, giving incentive for lower placed drivers to keep racing rather than settling for where they are or retiring.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-considers-aw...

Cold

15,255 posts

91 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Hamilton has just extended his contract to the end of the 2020 season.

Vaud

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156 months

Leroy902

1,540 posts

104 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Never in any doubt. Why would he leave!.

Vaud

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156 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Leroy902 said:
Never in any doubt. Why would he leave!.
I thought it might be longer, but then 2020 makes it co-terminating with Vettel. Retirement or a last 3 years in Maranello?

HTP99

22,615 posts

141 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Vaud said:
Leroy902 said:
Never in any doubt. Why would he leave!.
I thought it might be longer, but then 2020 makes it co-terminating with Vettel. Retirement or a last 3 years in Maranello?
New engine regs in 2021 I believe so he'll want to keep his options open.