The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

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Dermot O'Logical

2,588 posts

130 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Cold said:
Hamilton has just extended his contract to the end of the 2020 season.
The world of music breathes a collective sigh of relief.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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HTP99 said:
New engine regs in 2021 I believe so he'll want to keep his options open.
Lewis will retire at the end of 2020 once the new regulations are coming into place.

He knows the Mercedes is still the car to beat but after 2020 it could be a lottery like 2014

Jabbah

1,331 posts

155 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Vaud said:
I thought it might be longer, but then 2020 makes it co-terminating with Vettel. Retirement or a last 3 years in Maranello?
Mercedes contract in F1 is only till end of 2020 so makes little sense to offer someone a contract for longer until they sign up which won't be until the new regs are all sorted out.

Vaud

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50,611 posts

156 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Jabbah said:
Mercedes contract in F1 is only till end of 2020 so makes little sense to offer someone a contract for longer until they sign up which won't be until the new regs are all sorted out.
Ahh now that makes sense.

thegreenhell

15,415 posts

220 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Stroll to FI rumours are getting stronger. It would be a financial blow to Williams if he left, especially as they're also losing Martini at the end of the year, and will not be getting much prize money for their performance this year either.

tigerkoi

2,927 posts

199 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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thegreenhell said:
Stroll to FI rumours are getting stronger. It would be a financial blow to Williams if he left, especially as they're also losing Martini at the end of the year, and will not be getting much prize money for their performance this year either.
Interesting potential scenario, that...







I think the body language betrays who’s got the power in this relationship smile

I heard that whilst Tommy Hilfiger knew he didn’t have the skills to really blow up his nascent business in the 80’s to be a mega brand, he still struggles with the fact that Silas Chou and Stroll became ultra rich off his baby when they further sold it on. Strolls yacht alone is worth half Tommy’s fortune!

Vaud

Original Poster:

50,611 posts

156 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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thegreenhell said:
Stroll to FI rumours are getting stronger. It would be a financial blow to Williams if he left, especially as they're also losing Martini at the end of the year, and will not be getting much prize money for their performance this year either.
My guess is that Liberty will loan them whatever they need to survive to 2020. It is not in their interests to lose a team like Williams, and the rest of the grid would probably agree.

FourWheelDrift

88,557 posts

285 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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tigerkoi said:
Stroll - "It's you, I say YOU who will suffer if I take my boy and my money to Force India"

tigerkoi said:
Stroll - "So what do have to say about that then?"

Lowe - "We won't be spending so much on damage so I say we'll still be up on the deal and I don't think Force India can make spares as fast as we can"

tigerkoi said:
Stroll - ".................................... can we still be friends?"

Vaud

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50,611 posts

156 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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The drivers (for development) are largely irrelevant in this day an age. Given all of Williams experience, assets and one of the best power unit on the grid, you would have a reasonable expectation as an investor/customer that they wouldn't make a fundamental error of an aero stall...

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Ocon to Renault according to Joe Saward, where that leaves Sainz I don’t know?

FourWheelDrift

88,557 posts

285 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Ocon to Renault according to Joe Saward, where that leaves Sainz I don’t know?
Sainz back to Torro Rosso Honda to replace Hartley?

tigerkoi

2,927 posts

199 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
Stroll - ".................................... can we still be friends?"
Ha, excellent hehe

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Ocon to Renault according to Joe Saward, where that leaves Sainz I don’t know?
Sainz back to Torro Rosso Honda to replace Hartley?
The rumour mill suggests McLaren but I can't believe that.

Angpozzuto

966 posts

110 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Ocon to Renault according to Joe Saward, where that leaves Sainz I don’t know?
Sainz back to Torro Rosso Honda to replace Hartley?
Isn't he still under contract with red bull? Maybe a move to haas?

Vaud

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50,611 posts

156 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
The rumour mill suggests McLaren but I can't believe that.
Wouldn't be a bad fit if Alonso exits.. Spanish sponsor money may move to Sainz?

tigerkoi

2,927 posts

199 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Gaz. said:
Vaud said:
My guess is that Liberty will loan them whatever they need to survive to 2020. It is not in their interests to lose a team like Williams, and the rest of the grid would probably agree.
Didn’t Williams prevent a loan going to FI earlier this year?

I don’t think they’ll survive to the end of next season.
Honest question: do you really think Wiliams are in that deep of a hole? I’ve said my piece elsewhere, but interested to know if others think their decline could be precipitous.

I had read somewhere that indeed Williams had vetoed a loan going to FI. But I think that was a poor bit of game theory on Williams’ part: hopefully meddle in FI’s survival so that when attention turns to Williams fortunes, they’ll have more leverage for their own loan/support from Liberty or whomever because one team financially struggling is one thing, but two...

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Vaud said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
The rumour mill suggests McLaren but I can't believe that.
Wouldn't be a bad fit if Alonso exits.. Spanish sponsor money may move to Sainz?
Who Kamoa? rofl

cuprabob

14,677 posts

215 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Who Kamoa? rofl
...or even Kimoa smile

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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cuprabob said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Who Kamoa? rofl
...or even Kimoa smile
All of that exposure has really reinforced their brand eh? hehe

Vaud

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50,611 posts

156 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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tigerkoi said:
Honest question: do you really think Wiliams are in that deep of a hole? I’ve said my piece elsewhere, but interested to know if others think their decline could be precipitous.

I had read somewhere that indeed Williams had vetoed a loan going to FI. But I think that was a poor bit of game theory on Williams’ part: hopefully meddle in FI’s survival so that when attention turns to Williams fortunes, they’ll have more leverage for their own loan/support from Liberty or whomever because one team financially struggling is one thing, but two...
I think they will survive because providing they can turn and race they will be allowed to. Sadly they may look like Manor until then.

It's about survival to 2021.