The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

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Vaud

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Saturday 30th June 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
"I'm going to pee in your seat" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0SuS_6xa0c
Another great one, and appropriately at Monaco, baby.

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Monday 2nd July 2018
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My take is that they didn't swap them because of Austria 2002 - I think it was to avoid bad PR.

Vaud

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Monday 2nd July 2018
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Stan the Bat said:
thegreenhell said:
Vaud said:
My take is that they didn't swap them because of Austria 2002 - I think it was to avoid bad PR.
When has that ever held them back from following their own agenda?
Exactly, very strange.
No idea. It's just my hypothesis.

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Monday 2nd July 2018
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hairyben said:
precisely.

Team orders were "banned" because of the quite remarkable behaviour of ferrari in using them.

Team orders were re-permitted because the fia felt ferraris blatant breaking their rule was quite embarrassing.

Did I miss anything?
Other than lots of teams have used team orders in blatant ways, yes... wink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_orders

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Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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oyster said:
Vaud said:
My take is that they didn't swap them because of Austria 2002 - I think it was to avoid bad PR.
Kimi's points total is such that if Vettel were to have a couple of DNFs, then Ferrari might have to spread their eggs across 2 baskets.

I think if we were 4 or 5 races further into the season then things might have been different.
True.

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Vaud

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Thursday 19th July 2018
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Leroy902 said:
Never in any doubt. Why would he leave!.
I thought it might be longer, but then 2020 makes it co-terminating with Vettel. Retirement or a last 3 years in Maranello?

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Thursday 19th July 2018
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Jabbah said:
Mercedes contract in F1 is only till end of 2020 so makes little sense to offer someone a contract for longer until they sign up which won't be until the new regs are all sorted out.
Ahh now that makes sense.

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Thursday 19th July 2018
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thegreenhell said:
Stroll to FI rumours are getting stronger. It would be a financial blow to Williams if he left, especially as they're also losing Martini at the end of the year, and will not be getting much prize money for their performance this year either.
My guess is that Liberty will loan them whatever they need to survive to 2020. It is not in their interests to lose a team like Williams, and the rest of the grid would probably agree.

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Thursday 19th July 2018
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The drivers (for development) are largely irrelevant in this day an age. Given all of Williams experience, assets and one of the best power unit on the grid, you would have a reasonable expectation as an investor/customer that they wouldn't make a fundamental error of an aero stall...

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Thursday 19th July 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
The rumour mill suggests McLaren but I can't believe that.
Wouldn't be a bad fit if Alonso exits.. Spanish sponsor money may move to Sainz?

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Thursday 19th July 2018
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tigerkoi said:
Honest question: do you really think Wiliams are in that deep of a hole? I’ve said my piece elsewhere, but interested to know if others think their decline could be precipitous.

I had read somewhere that indeed Williams had vetoed a loan going to FI. But I think that was a poor bit of game theory on Williams’ part: hopefully meddle in FI’s survival so that when attention turns to Williams fortunes, they’ll have more leverage for their own loan/support from Liberty or whomever because one team financially struggling is one thing, but two...
I think they will survive because providing they can turn and race they will be allowed to. Sadly they may look like Manor until then.

It's about survival to 2021.

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Friday 20th July 2018
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hairyben said:
HustleRussell said:
Leaving out all the fluff, let me be direct.

You said;

ELUSIVEJIM said:
Well that's Lewis stipulation in his new contract complete. Keep Bottas.
What is your source?
don't feed.... I knew on hearing the news that the usual tedious peddlers would be banging the usual tedious rhythm on their drum, what an incredibly sad way to live.
It's an interesting point. Some on this forum have privileged information from team sources.

Some is speculation. It's just good to know which is which.

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Friday 20th July 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Rosberg was better than Bottas that is for sure.

But he was still not on the same level as the cream of the current grid.

Great if he was out front but lacked that edge that makes you a Lewis, Alonso etc etc...
Rosberg, in his star year was every bit the match for the current grid. In my view he burned himself out beating Lewis and knew his limits going forward.

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Friday 20th July 2018
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Sam993 said:
For sure, as much as I don't rate Rosberg as a great driver I respect him for knowing his limitations and understanding that it's better to get off the stage as a champion than as someone who used to be one once and ended his career in some stty team at the back of the grid. That's how I see it, for sure.
For sure you are right. wink

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Friday 20th July 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
hehe

Are you guys listening to Beyond The Grid Podcast? Mark Webber gave a great insight into Nico's fragility in this weeks episode.
Not yet but will pick it up later.

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Saturday 21st July 2018
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Basically Ferrari are putting Vettel's number one status in front of thinking about Ferrari.

Look how that worked out for Red Bull with Vettel.
Look how it worked for them with Schumacher.

Both Mercedes and Ferrari have clear no 1 strategies now.

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Sunday 22nd July 2018
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MissChief said:
Some rumour of Alonso going to Renault in a swap deal with Sainz. Not sure about it though!
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/formula-1/mclaren/new...

Would probably be a good fit. Cheaper than Alonso, pretty solid driver. Sponsor friendly. Probably what you need while still rebuilding the team - if you are faced with losing Alonso.

That said, Kimi would also be a good fit.

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Monday 23rd July 2018
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MissChief said:
Why does everyone think Stroll is only in F1 because he has his Dad's money? He won the Euro F3 championship. Equal cars, mostly equal power from different engines, as good as a stock series really. Many F1 champions have won in F3 as well but I don't see anyone saying they're st and had no place in F1? https://www.fiaf3europe.com/formula-1-champions-f3...
He has some talent and solid backing. Not the next Senna/Hamilton but a pretty solid midfield driver in my view.

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Friday 3rd August 2018
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I heard a rumour that DR was offered the same terms as MV at the time Max signed and he declined, preferring to keep his options open towards Ferrari or Mercedes.

Red Bull seem to have followed their normal ruthlessness in now declining to match the MV terms, knowing that he had much reduced options.