The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*

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Sam993

1,302 posts

72 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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MartG said:
Interesting - my feeling is that it will happen, but exactly how is still open

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/mclaren-no...
This weeks Indycar podcast covers this story

https://www.1070thefan.com/blogs/trackside-present...

starting from 49:40

It seems that it's very unlikely to happen and if it does it will be limited to Indy500.

Sam993

1,302 posts

72 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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MartG said:
Interesting - my feeling is that it will happen, but exactly how is still open

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/mclaren-no...
Also just read this

https://racer.com/2018/08/23/chevy-honda-open-to-m...

Which completely contradicts what the motorsport article claims that

motorsport said:
Honda Performance Development president Art St. Cyr claims HPD has been “operating near maximum capacity” supplying 12 fulltime IndyCar entries this year
Honda simply don't want to be attached to McLaren and Andretti being Honda team will struggle to get a Chevy car unless he does it under an umbrella of some sorts (like the collaboration with Harding Racing).

MartG

20,683 posts

204 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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Just rumour or maybe a grain of truth ?

https://thesportsrush.com/kubica-to-replace-stroll...

DanielSan

18,799 posts

167 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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MartG said:
Just rumour or maybe a grain of truth ?

https://thesportsrush.com/kubica-to-replace-stroll...


Confirmed that he could be in the car.... so confirmed sod all really

MiniMan64

16,932 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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I guess it depends on if Merc have any money the game.

If they do then it's Ocon and Stroll in Racing Point.

If they don't it's Stroll, Perez and Perez's money in Racing Point.

If think Vandornes goose is cooked. Likewise Sirotkin. Neither have anything decent to work with but neither have shown any inclination of faster pace on lesser machinery as the likes of Gasly and Leclerc have.


Sam993

1,302 posts

72 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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DanielSan said:
MartG said:
Just rumour or maybe a grain of truth ?

https://thesportsrush.com/kubica-to-replace-stroll...


Confirmed that he could be in the car.... so confirmed sod all really
Kubica being back in F1 in the worst car on the grid, I don't think I'd be that excited about it. Unless he suddenly starts driving it like he stole it and scores points.

red_slr

17,250 posts

189 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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wrong thread!

MartG

20,683 posts

204 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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Seems Ocon is the one without a seat frown

https://thesportsrush.com/hamilton-on-ocon-structu...

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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MartG said:
Seems Ocon is the one without a seat frown

https://thesportsrush.com/hamilton-on-ocon-structu...
see, I've had the sky F1 channel on in the background since qually and been vaguely aware of dart throwing bo11ocks, hovercraft riding bo11ocks, then you post this which is news to me. They should be sniffing this st out or what's the point of sky, er, F1.

westtra

1,534 posts

201 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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Ted covered it in the pre quali show.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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I know Ocon is a merc driver but is he committed to them and if so for how long?

F1 seems divided into RB/fez/merc tiered "camps" right now and the mood is that transition between them is difficult and unlikely, but I see no reason why hass wouldn't be interested in Ocon - he's a solid driver who can bring points - and maybe a route to the upstairs team isn't out the question

rdjohn

6,185 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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MartG said:
Seems Ocon is the one without a seat frown

https://thesportsrush.com/hamilton-on-ocon-structu...
Mercedes have money (lots) and engines. They also need a top driver for when Lewis, or Valterie, quits.

Perez has money and is not moving forward. Williams will soon be desperately in need of money - as well as a lot of resource management. These two facts must create a neat solution.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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rdjohn said:
Mercedes have money (lots) and engines. They also need a top driver for when Lewis, or Valterie, quits.

Perez has money and is not moving forward. Williams will soon be desperately in need of money - as well as a lot of resource management. These two facts must create a neat solution.
would merc pay the kind of pay-driver money Williams are after to secure Ocon a seat though?

It'd be great for Williams to have a properly handy driver but how much are we talking?

DanielSan

18,799 posts

167 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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hairyben said:
would merc pay the kind of pay-driver money Williams are after to secure Ocon a seat though?

It'd be great for Williams to have a properly handy driver but how much are we talking?
Free engines?

MiniMan64

16,932 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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DanielSan said:
hairyben said:
would merc pay the kind of pay-driver money Williams are after to secure Ocon a seat though?

It'd be great for Williams to have a properly handy driver but how much are we talking?
Free engines?
Haven't Williams been quite anti the idea of B-teams?

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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DanielSan said:
hairyben said:
would merc pay the kind of pay-driver money Williams are after to secure Ocon a seat though?

It'd be great for Williams to have a properly handy driver but how much are we talking?
Free engines?
So 50M a year?!?

MartG

20,683 posts

204 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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Report/rumour that Stroll will be in an FI from Monza...

https://thesportsrush.com/stroll-to-have-force-ind...

MissChief

7,111 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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hairyben said:
DanielSan said:
hairyben said:
would merc pay the kind of pay-driver money Williams are after to secure Ocon a seat though?

It'd be great for Williams to have a properly handy driver but how much are we talking?
Free engines?
So 50M a year?!?
It's reckoned that Mercedes engines including staff, upgrades etc is somewhere in the region of £15-£18m a season without discounts etc. With Ocon on the team, as a Mercedes young driver I'd be expecting anything from £4m to £6m in discounts or other benefits. But it may well be much less than that, I don't know.

FourWheelDrift

88,541 posts

284 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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MartG said:
Report/rumour that Stroll will be in an FI from Monza...

https://thesportsrush.com/stroll-to-have-force-ind...
I wouldn't be surprised if that is why Bob Fearnley left.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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MiniMan64 said:
Haven't Williams been quite anti the idea of B-teams?
Williams are in survival mode, they prostituted their team for cash and will do whatever it takes to stay afloat.
Without the Stroll and Martini money next year and looking to score poorly in this years prize fund they are in even worse shape.