The Official F1 2019 silly season *contains speculation*
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http://f1i.com/news/316553-mick-schumacher-f3-hat-...
Rather than start a Mick Schumacher thread, I thought I'd throw this one in here. Can Mick go all the way? 2nd now in the championship and just behind Ticktum. Three wins in one weekend...
A year in F2 and then F1?
Rather than start a Mick Schumacher thread, I thought I'd throw this one in here. Can Mick go all the way? 2nd now in the championship and just behind Ticktum. Three wins in one weekend...
A year in F2 and then F1?
Vaud said:
Ferrari's issue might be that both Kimi and Charles have contracts (maybe Sergio committed?) and it all needs unwinding.
I can only think that there must be a serious complexity for the announcement to be delayed from Monza.
I suspect you are right.I can only think that there must be a serious complexity for the announcement to be delayed from Monza.
What was interesting following Monza was how the narrative has changed amongst the Italian media lauding Hamilton as the next Schumacher. I get the feeling that Vettel hasn't really clicked with the Tifosi in the same way others (particularly Kimi) have and his various errors haven't helped his cause.
My guess is they are waiting to see what the next couple of races have in store. If Vettel bins it again, I wouldn't be surprised that he goes with Kimi and Leclerc put into a holding pattern awaiting the arrival of Hamilton at Maranello in two years time or sooner!
Who knows?
StevieBee said:
What was interesting following Monza was how the narrative has changed amongst the Italian media lauding Hamilton as the next Schumacher. I get the feeling that Vettel hasn't really clicked with the Tifosi in the same way others (particularly Kimi) have and his various errors haven't helped his cause.
My guess is they are waiting to see what the next couple of races have in store. If Vettel bins it again, I wouldn't be surprised that he goes with Kimi and Leclerc put into a holding pattern awaiting the arrival of Hamilton at Maranello in two years time or sooner!
Who knows?
There was an interesting moment during the live youtube pre-race feed, one of the kids told Vettel in Italian "you better win". Lol.My guess is they are waiting to see what the next couple of races have in store. If Vettel bins it again, I wouldn't be surprised that he goes with Kimi and Leclerc put into a holding pattern awaiting the arrival of Hamilton at Maranello in two years time or sooner!
Who knows?
StevieBee said:
Vaud said:
Ferrari's issue might be that both Kimi and Charles have contracts (maybe Sergio committed?) and it all needs unwinding.
I can only think that there must be a serious complexity for the announcement to be delayed from Monza.
I suspect you are right.I can only think that there must be a serious complexity for the announcement to be delayed from Monza.
What was interesting following Monza was how the narrative has changed amongst the Italian media lauding Hamilton as the next Schumacher. I get the feeling that Vettel hasn't really clicked with the Tifosi in the same way others (particularly Kimi) have and his various errors haven't helped his cause.
My guess is they are waiting to see what the next couple of races have in store. If Vettel bins it again, I wouldn't be surprised that he goes with Kimi and Leclerc put into a holding pattern awaiting the arrival of Hamilton at Maranello in two years time or sooner!
Who knows?
StevieBee said:
My guess is they are waiting to see what the next couple of races have in store. If Vettel bins it again, I wouldn't be surprised that he goes with Kimi and Leclerc put into a holding pattern awaiting the arrival of Hamilton at Maranello in two years time or sooner!
Who knows?
Interesting thought, but I'd be amazed if it played out that way because to me it feels as though Ferrari- rightly or wrongly- are still in love with Vettel and vice versa. Vettel does not look like the class of the field at the moment but you wouldn't replace him with aging Raikkonen or rookie Leclerc would you? Who knows?
I don't think Hamilton knows how long he'll be in the sport but if he beats Vettel in equal machinery this year and next I think he'll be looking around for his next rival, and if one doesn't materialise he might lose interest.
does he really need a Ferrari drive?
WDC in both recent eras of the sport
4* WDC
first black/mixed race WDC
never finished lower than 5th in championship
beat Fernando Alonso in his rookie year
10 year WDC spread - same as Schumacher
5 times WDC equalling Fangio
Unreliability probably cost him the 2016 title (5 points)
I don't think he needs Ferrari at all, hes shown no interest in sticking round to beat schumachers 7 crowns and realisticaly could have had them when you look at the could have been years.
yes I'm a fan.
WDC in both recent eras of the sport
4* WDC
first black/mixed race WDC
never finished lower than 5th in championship
beat Fernando Alonso in his rookie year
- Assuming Hamilton wins the WDC this year
10 year WDC spread - same as Schumacher
5 times WDC equalling Fangio
- what could have been
Unreliability probably cost him the 2016 title (5 points)
I don't think he needs Ferrari at all, hes shown no interest in sticking round to beat schumachers 7 crowns and realisticaly could have had them when you look at the could have been years.
yes I'm a fan.
The Hamilton Ferrari thing is pure conjecture on my part.
I just sense that with Vettel, all is not roses there with him. The Ferrari-Vettel love in is currently in the 'to be discussed' folder. If he does well over the next few races, then all is good.
I just sense that with Vettel, all is not roses there with him. The Ferrari-Vettel love in is currently in the 'to be discussed' folder. If he does well over the next few races, then all is good.
andburg said:
does he really need a Ferrari drive?
I don't think any driver of Hamilton's calibre 'needs' a Ferrari drive. But love them of loathe them, they do have a cachet about them that if the opportunity arose at the right time would be hard to ignore, I would imagine!Vaud said:
http://f1i.com/news/316553-mick-schumacher-f3-hat-...
Rather than start a Mick Schumacher thread, I thought I'd throw this one in here. Can Mick go all the way? 2nd now in the championship and just behind Ticktum. Three wins in one weekend...
A year in F2 and then F1?
Its not like getting into somewhere cos you're the bosses son and you then coast along on the back of all the minions. Rather than start a Mick Schumacher thread, I thought I'd throw this one in here. Can Mick go all the way? 2nd now in the championship and just behind Ticktum. Three wins in one weekend...
A year in F2 and then F1?
Att the end of the day f1 is about the stopwatch so why not.
StevieBee said:
I don't think any driver of Hamilton's calibre 'needs' a Ferrari drive. But love them of loathe them, they do have a cachet about them that if the opportunity arose at the right time would be hard to ignore, I would imagine!
I have always thought that Hamilton might end his career with a short stint at Ferrari. I don't know how anyone can't see the motivation for Hamilton of strolling into the Italian team and nailing a championship where both Alonso and Vettel have failed. I agree that Hamilton would be a poor fit for the team, but if he started out by winning, and kept doing so, then this would not matter.
Cabinet Enforcer said:
StevieBee said:
I don't think any driver of Hamilton's calibre 'needs' a Ferrari drive. But love them of loathe them, they do have a cachet about them that if the opportunity arose at the right time would be hard to ignore, I would imagine!
I have always thought that Hamilton might end his career with a short stint at Ferrari. I don't know how anyone can't see the motivation for Hamilton of strolling into the Italian team and nailing a championship where both Alonso and Vettel have failed. I agree that Hamilton would be a poor fit for the team, but if he started out by winning, and kept doing so, then this would not matter.
If he could start whacking in poles and wins early on, the Tifosi would probably get behind him. The problem is that I can't see Ferrari accepting what he does when not F1ing. It would probably be the making of Ferrari if they could change their culture...but that's a different point!
The Moose said:
That is very true - the Ferrari team carry a certain je ne sais quoi that other teams just don't/can't have.
If he could start whacking in poles and wins early on, the Tifosi would probably get behind him. The problem is that I can't see Ferrari accepting what he does when not F1ing. It would probably be the making of Ferrari if they could change their culture...but that's a different point!
The Tifosi don't care if they are winning. They accepted "Il leone" - Mansell as one of their own... Schumacher with his raw speed, Alonso with his passion. Kimi with his monotone mumbles and vodka.If he could start whacking in poles and wins early on, the Tifosi would probably get behind him. The problem is that I can't see Ferrari accepting what he does when not F1ing. It would probably be the making of Ferrari if they could change their culture...but that's a different point!
I think the Tifosi (when applied to Ferrari) are open in their adoration of a racer, regardless of what they do off track.
Vaud said:
The Moose said:
That is very true - the Ferrari team carry a certain je ne sais quoi that other teams just don't/can't have.
If he could start whacking in poles and wins early on, the Tifosi would probably get behind him. The problem is that I can't see Ferrari accepting what he does when not F1ing. It would probably be the making of Ferrari if they could change their culture...but that's a different point!
The Tifosi don't care if they are winning. They accepted "Il leone" - Mansell as one of their own... Schumacher with his raw speed, Alonso with his passion. Kimi with his monotone mumbles and vodka.If he could start whacking in poles and wins early on, the Tifosi would probably get behind him. The problem is that I can't see Ferrari accepting what he does when not F1ing. It would probably be the making of Ferrari if they could change their culture...but that's a different point!
I think the Tifosi (when applied to Ferrari) are open in their adoration of a racer, regardless of what they do off track.
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