The Official 2018 Spanish Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**
Discussion
kambites said:
I'm not sure there's a place in F1 anymore for an average mid-field driver who doesn't bring in major sponsorship. The big teams have no interest in developing a driver once they've been proven to not be absolutely top flight and the smaller teams can't afford to.
Rightly or wrongly, the lower end F1 teams have drifted towards the idea that having a good car and relatively weak drivers is better than the converse. Not that having money coming in from the drivers is a guarantee of a good car, as Williams seem to be proving at the moment.
Williams have seemed always to have the view that drivers was lightbulbs. They've had rubbish in their time.Rightly or wrongly, the lower end F1 teams have drifted towards the idea that having a good car and relatively weak drivers is better than the converse. Not that having money coming in from the drivers is a guarantee of a good car, as Williams seem to be proving at the moment.
Seeing Hamilton at one with his car, I think that was the turning point this season and now, we will see Hamilton edge further ahead for another WDC.
Ferrari losing all of their trick bits, sees Vettel struggling. It seems Mercedes employing ex Fezza man (can’t remeber his name) has possibly been quite revealing. No more battery packs with extra juice or blown exhausts; or whatever else they’ve been up to.
Ferrari losing all of their trick bits, sees Vettel struggling. It seems Mercedes employing ex Fezza man (can’t remeber his name) has possibly been quite revealing. No more battery packs with extra juice or blown exhausts; or whatever else they’ve been up to.
LDN said:
Seeing Hamilton at one with his car, I think that was the turning point this season and now, we will see Hamilton edge further ahead for another WDC.
Ferrari losing all of their trick bits, sees Vettel struggling. It seems Mercedes employing ex Fezza man (can’t remeber his name) has possibly been quite revealing. No more battery packs with extra juice or blown exhausts; or whatever else they’ve been up to.
Just lets hope that does not happen.Ferrari losing all of their trick bits, sees Vettel struggling. It seems Mercedes employing ex Fezza man (can’t remeber his name) has possibly been quite revealing. No more battery packs with extra juice or blown exhausts; or whatever else they’ve been up to.
The first four races did a lot of good for F1.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Just lets hope that does not happen.
The first four races did a lot of good for F1.
Indeed, but I don't think there's really any reason to believe Mercedes are going to run away with the season now they've had one dominant race. Their car always seems to have worked better than the Ferrari on harder tyres and in cooler temperatures. The first four races did a lot of good for F1.
kambites said:
Indeed, but I don't think there's really any reason to believe Mercedes are going to run away with the season now they've had one dominant race. Their car always seems to have worked better than the Ferrari on harder tyres and in cooler temperatures.
Safety car nonsense aside Vettel was dominant in Baku as well, he spent the whole race going just quickly enough to maintain a gap on Hamilton and only upped his pace when Hamilton was banging a quicker lap in. The car was mighty fast before they put a couple of ears in the Halo and it’ll be mighty fast when they’re taken off again.
Dr Z said:
No, it's just Pirelli.
Ironically, we did see the ultimate in performance at this race, from Merc & Hamilton.
Did you enjoy it? The tyres were even harder than usual (due to the reduced tread) and allowed them to 1-stop. Hamilton was pulling 6 tenths a lap in the first stint on Vettel, who for all practical purposes was barely hanging on with the pressure from Bottas behind. Did you like the kind of racing you saw yesterday?
I would say we saw great performance from Mercedes, in Qualifying trim the Hamilton effect didnt really seem to play into his hands so much with Bottas breathing down his neck in the time sheets. Ironically, we did see the ultimate in performance at this race, from Merc & Hamilton.
Did you enjoy it? The tyres were even harder than usual (due to the reduced tread) and allowed them to 1-stop. Hamilton was pulling 6 tenths a lap in the first stint on Vettel, who for all practical purposes was barely hanging on with the pressure from Bottas behind. Did you like the kind of racing you saw yesterday?
Hamilton did however have a great race which I was glad to see, I've not seen him put that much of a gap on the ferrari so quickly for quite some time, it was impressive to witness. I also love that circuit, although not traditionally an overtaking track, it has some brilliant corners to attack.
On another note:
I'm probably one of the few that finds Monaco an absolute snooze fest unless it's raining, i try to tune into it but find a written commentary on BBC usually suffices. If it sounds juicy I will watch the recording of it later otherwise that 2 hours can be spent doing something more productive.
kambites said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Just lets hope that does not happen.
The first four races did a lot of good for F1.
Indeed, but I don't think there's really any reason to believe Mercedes are going to run away with the season now they've had one dominant race. Their car always seems to have worked better than the Ferrari on harder tyres and in cooler temperatures. The first four races did a lot of good for F1.
Derek Smith said:
Don't you think entertainment is more important? Ultimate is no fun. There have been three memorable and exciting GPs this season. three out of five: that's not quite unique, but it is unusual. So I can't see what the regs are sucking out.
Entertainment is important, however seeing what could be made possible to go the fastest around a track would be more impressive in my eyes, all within the lines of safety for the Driver/Spectators. Reading and watching some of the older stuff back in the 70's, 80's 90's it would seem the designers could put into action some concepts to improve their car and make it stand out from the crowd. Some wacky ideas for sure but it really showed the possibilities in performance, although highly unlikely, that is the kind of F1 I love.
Dr Z said:
BTW, this is the line up for the tests, FI and McLaren are doing some test work for Pirelli. Kubica is in the car tomorrow.
Interesting to see Mercedes using both their race drivers for the two day test.Very smart thinking.
You can just see why Mercedes can find that bit extra when Ferrari begin to close.
Having your main drivers doing this work will only help moving forward.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Dr Z said:
BTW, this is the line up for the tests, FI and McLaren are doing some test work for Pirelli. Kubica is in the car tomorrow.
Interesting to see Mercedes using both their race drivers for the two day test.Very smart thinking.
You can just see why Mercedes can find that bit extra when Ferrari begin to close.
Having your main drivers doing this work will only help moving forward.
521EK9 said:
On another note:
I'm probably one of the few that finds Monaco an absolute snooze fest unless it's raining, i try to tune into it but find a written commentary on BBC usually suffices. If it sounds juicy I will watch the recording of it later otherwise that 2 hours can be spent doing something more productive.
You are not the only one..I'm probably one of the few that finds Monaco an absolute snooze fest unless it's raining, i try to tune into it but find a written commentary on BBC usually suffices. If it sounds juicy I will watch the recording of it later otherwise that 2 hours can be spent doing something more productive.
It's impossible to overtake, just a presession from beginning to end.
Verstappen has managed to pass as the hairpin but others may decide to close the door this year and that will lead to more low speed crashes.
rev-erend said:
521EK9 said:
On another note:
I'm probably one of the few that finds Monaco an absolute snooze fest unless it's raining, i try to tune into it but find a written commentary on BBC usually suffices. If it sounds juicy I will watch the recording of it later otherwise that 2 hours can be spent doing something more productive.
You are not the only one..I'm probably one of the few that finds Monaco an absolute snooze fest unless it's raining, i try to tune into it but find a written commentary on BBC usually suffices. If it sounds juicy I will watch the recording of it later otherwise that 2 hours can be spent doing something more productive.
It's impossible to overtake, just a presession from beginning to end.
Verstappen has managed to pass as the hairpin but others may decide to close the door this year and that will lead to more low speed crashes.
Gad-Westy said:
rev-erend said:
521EK9 said:
On another note:
I'm probably one of the few that finds Monaco an absolute snooze fest unless it's raining, i try to tune into it but find a written commentary on BBC usually suffices. If it sounds juicy I will watch the recording of it later otherwise that 2 hours can be spent doing something more productive.
You are not the only one..I'm probably one of the few that finds Monaco an absolute snooze fest unless it's raining, i try to tune into it but find a written commentary on BBC usually suffices. If it sounds juicy I will watch the recording of it later otherwise that 2 hours can be spent doing something more productive.
It's impossible to overtake, just a presession from beginning to end.
Verstappen has managed to pass as the hairpin but others may decide to close the door this year and that will lead to more low speed crashes.
37chevy said:
They also changed them in 2014 and last year at Ferrari’s request. teams give feedback to Pirelli and Pirelli change tyres so that performance or safety is increased. I find your inability to accept that ALL teams do this BY VETTELS OWN ADMISSION quite baffling. Maybe you do just sit in your bedroom with a tin foil hat and book of conspiracy theories that suit your agenda. Be good if you took it off for a change and had a balanced opinion
My books are located in my library 
My personal theory is this could be Hamilton's final season, and the FIA will want their Golden Boy to exit on a high.
I would not be surprised if he does depart with 5 WDC's
sparta6 said:
My books are located in my library
My personal theory is this could be Hamilton's final season, and the FIA will want their Golden Boy to exit on a high.
I would not be surprised if he does depart with 5 WDC's
My theory is you’re an alien from the planet zorbini, you have 17 nipples and an IQ of 17000. It’s about as plausible as the FIA fixing a world championship so their ‘golden boy’ can win it for a 5th time and then let him retire....My personal theory is this could be Hamilton's final season, and the FIA will want their Golden Boy to exit on a high.
I would not be surprised if he does depart with 5 WDC's
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