The Official 2018 Spanish Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

The Official 2018 Spanish Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

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Piginapoke

4,768 posts

186 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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I suppose ugliness is relative!

It even makes the Force India look alright

paolow

3,211 posts

259 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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Vocal Minority said:
Sorry, I misread your post - my fault

I suppose all you can do is design your car to run well in clean air - I suppose you can’t really design a car to mitigate the impact of dirty air as you start inherently compromised and it will never be more effective than the car in front of you with clean air no matter what.
true - no worries - I suppose you make the car work for 'best case' to give all the options and go from there. Will be interesting now its 'out of the bag' as to how it does in quali / race performance...

Certainly it looks (to my eyes) somwhat inelegant because the aero is so front end heavy - but, as ever, stationary looks be damned - its speed round the track thats the winner...

Oh, eta - one final point - ill assume the nostril vents are to ensure laminar airflow from the nose and down around the base of the car - but why would a front wing need an access plate immediately to the front and in the centre? what would that be giving access to?
If there was no trickery that would be a single piece of carbon fibre no?

My best guess - to tension the front wing to maximise aero through the amount it can flex?


Edited by paolow on Thursday 10th May 21:45

NRS

22,197 posts

202 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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1 - Deesee
2 - Jasandjules
3 - NRS
5 - Mark-C
6 - GTO-3R
10 - DeejRC
12 - paua
15 - AW111
16 - hairyben
22 - suffolk009
42 - 99dndd
64 - TheInternet
66 - Vaud
67 - Angpozzuto

No crash - Dr Z

PhillipM

6,524 posts

190 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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paolow said:
but why would a front wing need an access plate immediately to the front and in the centre? what would that be giving access to?
Ballast

HardtopManual

2,434 posts

167 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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angrymoby

2,613 posts

179 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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sparta6 said:
Your naivety is quaint smile

Big business moves in mercurial ways.
But for sure the only people who know the absolute truth are the four gentleman who sat in that private meeting room and shared a bottle of cognac.
apologies, i didn't realise i was in a conversation with the CEO of Bacofoil

DanielSan

18,807 posts

168 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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NRS said:
1 - Deesee
2 - Jasandjules
3 - NRS
5 - Mark-C
6 - GTO-3R
10 - DeejRC
12 - paua
15 - AW111
16 - hairyben
22 - suffolk009
42 - 99dndd
64 - TheInternet
66 - Vaud
67 - Angpozzuto

No crash - Dr Z
I’ll take 38 but collision with a Sauber being lapped.

Dr Z

Original Poster:

3,396 posts

172 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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paolow said:
Certainly it looks (to my eyes) somwhat inelegant because the aero is so front end heavy - but, as ever, stationary looks be damned - its speed round the track thats the winner...
The front end is/was the problem with the car in the four races so far, IMO. In several occasions you'd see Fernando throw the car into a corner with all his might hoping it'd stick, but it just wouldn't handle it. This looks like it goes in some way towards addressing that. I think there's some pretty significant changes to the diffuser too now.

I would expect the gains from this would snowball nicely. The car that was scrutineered looked like it had the low drag FW fitted. Will be interesting to see what they end up racing with on Saturday and Sunday.

Perhaps they should have called the car that raced at the past four tracks as the MCL32B as that would seem more appropriate.

The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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I would have gone no crash, but Dr Z has that. Will go for 56 thumbup

1 - Deesee
2 - Jasandjules
3 - NRS
5 - Mark-C
6 - GTO-3R
10 - DeejRC
12 - paua
15 - AW111
16 - hairyben
22 - suffolk009
38 - DanielSan
42 - 99dndd
56 - The Moose
64 - TheInternet
66 - Vaud
67 - Angpozzuto

No crash - Dr Z

BaronVonVaderham

2,317 posts

148 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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anonymous said:
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That shows everything that’s wrong with the current formula. Hideous.

I’ll go for Max taking out Seb in the braking for t1 on the first lap hehe

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

153 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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I don't understand why everyone needs Formula One cars to be pretty personally.

We have road cars for that.

Hey ho.

Derek Smith

45,704 posts

249 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Vocal Minority said:
I don't understand why everyone needs Formula One cars to be pretty personally.

We have road cars for that.

Hey ho.
Good grief! It's enough to make you stop breathing.

Part of the attraction of F1 (used to be?) how stunning the cars were. They were awesome to look at then and are now.

I'm not sure they need to be pretty, but they do need to grab your eyes and emotions.


Contract Killer

4,382 posts

184 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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And in other news Honda have a brand new hospitality unit. (I had a part in the build smile )

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

153 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Derek Smith said:
Vocal Minority said:
I don't understand why everyone needs Formula One cars to be pretty personally.

We have road cars for that.

Hey ho.
Good grief! It's enough to make you stop breathing.

Part of the attraction of F1 (used to be?) how stunning the cars were. They were awesome to look at then and are now.

I'm not sure they need to be pretty, but they do need to grab your eyes and emotions.
Ah well - there is an arguement to say we are talking about different things.


For all of its lack of pretty - the new design is striking. It's why I liked the MP4/10 so much as well.

My beef is specifically with the idea they have to be pretty.

Of course some eg Lotus 49, Jordan 191 & 195, Maser 250f etc are doubtless most pleasing to the eye. And that's smashing.

But I don't lament cars that are not - all racing cars are by definition extreme, and something away from the norm - so they are automatically striking to look at.


thegreenhell

15,406 posts

220 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Two main points of interest for FP1 for me: the new McLaren update, and the new Williams test driver. How will they go?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Now got the mirrors and aero hanging off the halo on the Ferrari.

scratchchin


thegreenhell

15,406 posts

220 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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The wrong Red Bull is in the wall...

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Jesus, these are meant to be the best drivers in the world but as soon as it gets windy out come the tears.

Dr Z

Original Poster:

3,396 posts

172 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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thegreenhell said:
Two main points of interest for FP1 for me: the new McLaren update, and the new Williams test driver. How will they go?
Williams have a substantial update here. Also RB & Force India.

groomi

9,317 posts

244 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Straight out of the box and Kubica is significantly faster than Stroll.

The gap may well close or reverse over the course of the session, but it just shows the class of Kubica to be able to jump in a car he's barely driven, in his first official session in 7 years and immediately go quicker than the regular driver.