The Official 2018 Monaco Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

The Official 2018 Monaco Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

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slipstream 1985

12,220 posts

179 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Race tactics. Will a few drivers pit on lap 1 and just go to the end?

Stan the Bat

8,918 posts

212 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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suffolk009 said:
McLaren have just hired Gil de Ferran as a motorsport advisor. I think an Indycar team is on the cards. Alonso to drive would seem to make sense. As I suggested elsewhere (maybe the silly season thread), if Alonso wins LeMans this year then I reckon he'll be off to Indycar full time.
Really can't see why he would want to do Indycar, it's second division stuff.

He doesn't need the money and is still worthy of a place in F1.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Stan the Bat said:
suffolk009 said:
McLaren have just hired Gil de Ferran as a motorsport advisor. I think an Indycar team is on the cards. Alonso to drive would seem to make sense. As I suggested elsewhere (maybe the silly season thread), if Alonso wins LeMans this year then I reckon he'll be off to Indycar full time.
Really can't see why he would want to do Indycar, it's second division stuff.

He doesn't need the money and is still worthy of a place in F1.
Because he wants to win. If McLaren F1 cannot provide a winning car then I can fully understand him going elsewhere to race, and I don’t mean in F1.

Stan the Bat

8,918 posts

212 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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garyhun said:
Stan the Bat said:
suffolk009 said:
McLaren have just hired Gil de Ferran as a motorsport advisor. I think an Indycar team is on the cards. Alonso to drive would seem to make sense. As I suggested elsewhere (maybe the silly season thread), if Alonso wins LeMans this year then I reckon he'll be off to Indycar full time.
Really can't see why he would want to do Indycar, it's second division stuff.

He doesn't need the money and is still worthy of a place in F1.
Because he wants to win. If McLaren F1 cannot provide a winning car then I can fully understand him going elsewhere to race, and I don’t mean in F1.
Well I can't.

Vaud

50,498 posts

155 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Stan the Bat said:
Well I can't.
I think it is the concept of the "triple crown"

Stan the Bat

8,918 posts

212 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Vaud said:
Stan the Bat said:
Well I can't.
I think it is the concept of the "triple crown"
Yes, can understand the Indy 500, but not a season in a second division.

HTP99

22,552 posts

140 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Stan the Bat said:
garyhun said:
Stan the Bat said:
suffolk009 said:
McLaren have just hired Gil de Ferran as a motorsport advisor. I think an Indycar team is on the cards. Alonso to drive would seem to make sense. As I suggested elsewhere (maybe the silly season thread), if Alonso wins LeMans this year then I reckon he'll be off to Indycar full time.
Really can't see why he would want to do Indycar, it's second division stuff.

He doesn't need the money and is still worthy of a place in F1.
Because he wants to win. If McLaren F1 cannot provide a winning car then I can fully understand him going elsewhere to race, and I don’t mean in F1.
Well I can't.
I can; he's no hope of winning another F1 title, he is perfectly capable of winning Le Mans so what is left; Indycar.

Stan the Bat

8,918 posts

212 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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As said above Indy 500 yes, but a full season ...why ???

freddytin

1,184 posts

227 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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slipstream 1985 said:
Race tactics. Will a few drivers pit on lap 1 and just go to the end?
^^^^ THIS ^^^^ Some of the lesser teams could gain valuable points...Helped along with a safety car or two

FourWheelDrift

88,523 posts

284 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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HTP99 said:
I can; he's no hope of winning another F1 title, he is perfectly capable of winning Le Mans so what is left; Indycar.
MotoGP biggrin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4tBaNh0uQg

Sam993

1,302 posts

72 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Stan the Bat said:
Really can't see why he would want to do Indycar, it's second division stuff.
No it's not, it's on par with modern F1 if not better in terms of pure racing excitement.

Vaud

50,498 posts

155 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Sam993 said:
No it's not, it's on par with modern F1 if not better in terms of pure racing excitement.
Some tracks maybe. But the "turn left, turn left, turn left, turn left" hasn't exactly attracted a global audience.

It's okay to watch over a beer (and I must go and see the Indy 500 live one day) but it is tier 2.

Sam993

1,302 posts

72 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Vaud said:
Sam993 said:
No it's not, it's on par with modern F1 if not better in terms of pure racing excitement.
Some tracks maybe. But the "turn left, turn left, turn left, turn left" hasn't exactly attracted a global audience.

It's okay to watch over a beer (and I must go and see the Indy 500 live one day) but it is tier 2.
They used to attract global audience in the first half of 90's, but thanks to greed and IMS owners wanting to create their own oval only series that almost killed it. They are back to where they were in the early 90's now. If not better. More and more people realise that F1 is a corporate circle jerk that lost its edge and watch Indycar instead. Myself included (although I love this years F1 season).

spunkytherabbit

442 posts

180 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Sam993 said:
Stan the Bat said:
Really can't see why he would want to do Indycar, it's second division stuff.
No it's not, it's on par with modern F1 if not better in terms of pure racing excitement.
I think it is the last three words that will mean the most to him. For all his faults, I get the impression that he just wants to enjoy his racing. He's probably had a thoroughly miserable past three years, he knows another F1 championship isn't going to happen and is dubious about the future of the sport. Whether or not Indy Car is a second division to F1 is moot. Stick in F1 in cars that can't overtake and be stuck in the mid field as a result every two weeks despite best efforts, or do 180mph in another formula with loads of overtaking?

That I would imagine is what he would be considering. Rather than prestige - perceived or real.

spunkytherabbit

442 posts

180 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Sam993 said:
They used to attract global audience in the first half of 90's, but thanks to greed and IMS owners wanting to create their own oval only series that almost killed it. They are back to where they were in the early 90's now. If not better. More and more people realise that F1 is a corporate circle jerk that lost its edge and watch Indycar instead. Myself included (although I love this years F1 season).
Champcar I know, not Indy, but did you ever see the race where they were on this bizarre airfield circuit and Montoya goes balls out round the outside of someone and drags his car down a concrete wall and sparks come flying up off the rims? Made the overtake stick too!

DanielSan

18,793 posts

167 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Vaud said:
Some tracks maybe. But the "turn left, turn left, turn left, turn left" hasn't exactly attracted a global audience.

It's okay to watch over a beer (and I must go and see the Indy 500 live one day) but it is tier 2.
I think there’s onky a couple of oval circuits on the Indy calendar now it’s predominantly road courses.

Alonso now seems to be purely racing for fun at this stage of his career, he doesn’t need the money he just wants to win. So why not dabble in a few different things. Wouldn’t even be surprised if he ended up in a rallycross car in a few years time just for something fun to do.

thegreenhell

15,345 posts

219 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Sam993 said:
Stan the Bat said:
Really can't see why he would want to do Indycar, it's second division stuff.
No it's not, it's on par with modern F1 if not better in terms of pure racing excitement.
Most club racing is better than F1 for pure racing excitement. Apart from one big race, Indycar is quite mediocre, with too many races on short ovals and Mickey Mouse street circuits that make Formula E look exciting.

What I'd really like to see is him doing some Masters F1 races in an old M23.

Sam993

1,302 posts

72 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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spunkytherabbit said:
Sam993 said:
They used to attract global audience in the first half of 90's, but thanks to greed and IMS owners wanting to create their own oval only series that almost killed it. They are back to where they were in the early 90's now. If not better. More and more people realise that F1 is a corporate circle jerk that lost its edge and watch Indycar instead. Myself included (although I love this years F1 season).
Champcar I know, not Indy, but did you ever see the race where they were on this bizarre airfield circuit and Montoya goes balls out round the outside of someone and drags his car down a concrete wall and sparks come flying up off the rims? Made the overtake stick too!
Don't recall that one but IndyCar/Cart had some exciting races and overtakes back in the day. The most famous one in my opinion is Zanardi's last lap overtake on Herta at Laguna Seca in the Corkscrew which won him the race, I remember watching that one late in the evening live on Eurosport. I loved Zanardi for his balls deep approach that won him races and championships in Cart. Not so much in F1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBthxGThBkc (overtake starts around 4:30 but the whole bit is great to watch)

Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Speaking more of the present, I'm predicting 3 safety cars and a fair bit of grumbling from the drivers biggrin

MartG

20,678 posts

204 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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DanielSan said:
I think there’s only a couple of oval circuits on the Indy calendar now it’s predominantly road courses.
Six out of the 17 races in this years calendar