The Official 2018 Monaco Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**
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swisstoni said:
I was there!
At least the rain was warmish.
I was too, and at Mirabeau. I still remember how all the Italians in the grandstand reacted to MS stacking it under our noses to this day especially after a phenomenal pole the day before.At least the rain was warmish.
Apparently Coulthard's visor was misting up so he borrowed a lid from MS. Being at the race it was very confusing after seeing Schumacher crashing on the first lap then apparently driving round in a McLaren for the rest of the race. It was only after it finished it became apparent it was DC
cgt2 said:
I was too, and at Mirabeau. I still remember how all the Italians in the grandstand reacted to MS stacking it under our noses to this day especially after a phenomenal pole the day before.
Apparently Coulthard's visor was misting up so he borrowed a lid from MS. Being at the race it was very confusing after seeing Schumacher crashing on the first lap then apparently driving round in a McLaren for the rest of the race. It was only after it finished it became apparent it was DC
It was an FIA conspiracy. They got Senna to swop with Coulthard. Don't you remember that no one could find Senna after his crash? There was some rumour he'd gone back to his flat, but who'd believe that. He was in the McLaren.Apparently Coulthard's visor was misting up so he borrowed a lid from MS. Being at the race it was very confusing after seeing Schumacher crashing on the first lap then apparently driving round in a McLaren for the rest of the race. It was only after it finished it became apparent it was DC
cgt2 said:
swisstoni said:
I was there!
At least the rain was warmish.
I was too, and at Mirabeau. I still remember how all the Italians in the grandstand reacted to MS stacking it under our noses to this day especially after a phenomenal pole the day before.At least the rain was warmish.
Apparently Coulthard's visor was misting up so he borrowed a lid from MS. Being at the race it was very confusing after seeing Schumacher crashing on the first lap then apparently driving round in a McLaren for the rest of the race. It was only after it finished it became apparent it was DC
When Will Max Crash?
When Will Grosjean f
k Up?
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| Jasandjules | FP2 |
| Stan the Bat | Q2 |
| hairyben | Q3 |
| Angpozzuto | 1 |
| 99dndd | 2 |
| The Moose | 18 |
| Gaz. | 45 |
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| Jasandjules | FP3 |
| The Moose | 1 |
| Gaz. | 2 |
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| Jasandjules | FP2 |
| Stan the Bat | Q2 |
| hairyben | Q3 |
| Angpozzuto | 1 |
| 99dndd | 2 |
| The Moose | 18 |
| glazbagun | 26 |
| Gaz. | 45 |
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| Jasandjules | FP3 |
| The Moose | 1 |
| Gaz. | 2 |
| Glazbagun. | clean race |
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| Jasandjules | FP2 |
| Stan the Bat | Q2 |
| hairyben | Q3 |
| Angpozzuto | 1 |
| 99dndd | 2 |
| The Moose | 18 |
| glazbagun | 26 |
| Drive Blind | 33 |
| Gaz. | 45 |
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| Jasandjules | FP3 |
| Drive Blind | Q2 |
| The Moose | 1 |
| Gaz. | 2 |
| Glazbagun. | clean race |
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Six drivers (both Red Bulls, both Renaults and both Williams') have chosen to bring only one set of each of the two harder compounds. For Red Bull in particular this seems odd - they must've realised they would have a very good chance to win here even without going aggressive on strategy so why do this?
Doesn't this paint them into a corner of using the hypers in Q2 (because they'll need to understand the harder compound to know if it's viable for Q2 which means practising on it, which means it'll be no good for Q2). So they'll start the race on hypers before going onto either a used tyre or one they haven't practised which makes them vulnerable to an over-cut.
Or they might have to stop twice - when was the last time a two stopper won in Monaco?
Doesn't this paint them into a corner of using the hypers in Q2 (because they'll need to understand the harder compound to know if it's viable for Q2 which means practising on it, which means it'll be no good for Q2). So they'll start the race on hypers before going onto either a used tyre or one they haven't practised which makes them vulnerable to an over-cut.
Or they might have to stop twice - when was the last time a two stopper won in Monaco?
Over and undercuts aren’t as effective at Monaco though due to the lack of passing, I’m not saying it doesn’t happen of course but it is limited.
Going onto used tyres for a second stint might not hamper too much either due to the importance of track position-how many times have we seen a car on fresher, better rubber be unable to make it past?
(Clue-I was there for one and royally pee’d off about it too!)
Going onto used tyres for a second stint might not hamper too much either due to the importance of track position-how many times have we seen a car on fresher, better rubber be unable to make it past?
(Clue-I was there for one and royally pee’d off about it too!)
Drive Blind said:
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If you don't think they're going to crash you're not really playing the game IMO! 'No crash' is a bit of a cop out.| Player | Lap |
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| Jasandjules | FP2 |
| Stan the Bat | Q2 |
| hairyben | Q3 |
| Angpozzuto | 1 |
| 99dndd | 2 |
| The Moose | 18 |
| glazbagun | 26 |
| Drive Blind | 33 |
| TheInternet | 40 |
| Gaz. | 45 |
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k Up?| Player | Lap |
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| Jasandjules | FP3 |
| Drive Blind | Q2 |
| The Moose | 1 |
| Gaz. | 2 |
| Glazbagun. | clean race |
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It was interesting watching the Historic last weekend how there were passes on the hill up from St Devote and also a very close pass in the swimming pool complex after the chicane. Things we just don't see anymore.
If the cars were slightly narrower it would make a huge difference to the action.
If the cars were slightly narrower it would make a huge difference to the action.
cgt2 said:
It was interesting watching the Historic last weekend how there were passes on the hill up from St Devote and also a very close pass in the swimming pool complex after the chicane. Things we just don't see anymore.
If the cars were slightly narrower it would make a huge difference to the action.
It’d help if they were narrower but IMO differentiation between drivers is the difference in the Historique, in those races you have professional single seater drivers vs. Supermarket chain managers who race sometimes at the weekend. If the cars were slightly narrower it would make a huge difference to the action.
HustleRussell said:
It’d help if they were narrower but IMO differentiation between drivers is the difference in the Historique, in those races you have professional single seater drivers vs. Supermarket chain managers who race sometimes at the weekend.
Very true.. shades of Pedro Diniz!glazbagun said:
TheInternet said:
If you don't think they're going to crash you're not really playing the game IMO! 'No crash' is a bit of a cop out.
Even when it's Grosjean? 
M3ax said:
The most exciting part of the race is Dr Z’s preamble.
I hope not! 
521EK9 said:
You should work in ticket sales, the one race of the year I'm never bothered about watching and now because of your ramblings i dont want to miss it
Mr_Thyroid said:
Six drivers (both Red Bulls, both Renaults and both Williams') have chosen to bring only one set of each of the two harder compounds. For Red Bull in particular this seems odd - they must've realised they would have a very good chance to win here even without going aggressive on strategy so why do this?
Doesn't this paint them into a corner of using the hypers in Q2 (because they'll need to understand the harder compound to know if it's viable for Q2 which means practising on it, which means it'll be no good for Q2). So they'll start the race on hypers before going onto either a used tyre or one they haven't practised which makes them vulnerable to an over-cut.
Or they might have to stop twice - when was the last time a two stopper won in Monaco?
I think the warm up characteristics and working range of the ultra and super soft are not hugely different to the hypersoft, so the thinking behind these choices is that if they can spend the time to get the car nailed on for the hypers, the other tyres should work without any issue. The teams will have detailed models of the different compounds and their behaviour, but some teams are confident that they don't need to actually run the tyre during practice sessions to know that it will work fine, while others tend to run it to confirm it's working as well as predicted and not take that risk. Williams are odd though, they had ordered a bucket load of super softs to Spain and that was a totally useless tyre...makes you question their thinking.Doesn't this paint them into a corner of using the hypers in Q2 (because they'll need to understand the harder compound to know if it's viable for Q2 which means practising on it, which means it'll be no good for Q2). So they'll start the race on hypers before going onto either a used tyre or one they haven't practised which makes them vulnerable to an over-cut.
Or they might have to stop twice - when was the last time a two stopper won in Monaco?
With the hypers, I think they're about a second quicker than the ultra softs, so it's very likely that the top teams will not run the harder tyre to go through Q2 - too risky, as the rest of the pack will be too close here.
I do agree though, there is a sense of presumptuousness with some teams that has come back to bite them when Nature throws a curveball during the weekend. I enjoy it when this happens. Also, you would often see the teams split the running of the harder tyres between their drivers and share the data to inform set up decisions, but in the race you would expect the driver that ran the tyre to have a better feel for it, so in the race there must be a small advantage for that driver.
I think it was Merc that did this in Bahrain, when Hamilton did all the running on the medium in the practice sessions but it was Bottas that was fighting for the win on that tyre...and the first time he'd ever ran that tyre during the weekend was in the race. I can't help but feel that he'd have managed the tyre better for that long stint to be able to size up Vettel for that final attack if he'd have ran it in the practice session.
Dr Z said:
I do agree though, there is a sense of presumptuousness with some teams that has come back to bite them when Nature throws a curveball during the weekend. I enjoy it when this happens. Also, you would often see the teams split the running of the harder tyres between their drivers and share the data to inform set up decisions, but in the race you would expect the driver that ran the tyre to have a better feel for it, so in the race there must be a small advantage for that driver.
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