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Mark-C

5,092 posts

205 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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CanAm said:
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eps

6,297 posts

269 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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It feels like it will go through, but there is some contract wrangling going through still..

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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ajprice said:
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TheLimla said:
Apparently Audi have bought Mclaren https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/business-financ...
Ooh, was not expecting that. Sincerely hope they don't fk around too much and ruin the team that a lot of us support.
Audi own Ducati, Ducati MotoGP still runs as Ducati, with a small Audi Sport logo on the bikes

Uncle Joe Saward mentioned Audi buying the McLaren F1 concern in the Missed Apex podcast earlier in the week. I thought it was a revelation but seems PHers were there 2-3 weeks ago.

He said the McLaren road car division was of interest to another car manufacturer.

Edited by carinaman on Friday 3rd December 11:37

thegreenhell

15,346 posts

219 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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McLaren and Williams are the obvious targets for VAG involvement. McLaren have the ex-Porsche WEC team boss as their F1 team boss, and Williams have most of the VW WRC senior management running their F1 team now.

skwdenyer

16,501 posts

240 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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carinaman said:
Uncle Joe Saward mentioned Audi buying the McLaren F1 concern in the Missed Apex podcast earlier in the week. I thought it was a revelation but seems PHers were there 2-3 weeks ago.

He said the McLaren road car division was of interest to another car manufacturer.

Edited by carinaman on Friday 3rd December 11:37
Joe frequently has his finger on the pulse. He suggests Audi interested in buying McLaren F1, BMW interested in buying McLaren Cars, and then Porsche as an additional entrant (engines only, but possibly tech-shared with the Audi programme).

It would seem to me to be a great shame if either - or both - were sold to multinationals. The F1 team should be on the brink of profitability with the new caps coming in, whilst the road car operation has achieved a great deal in a short time - in fact, when *was* the last time somebody set up a car operation like this and grew to this scale so quickly (it at all)?

But the current principals may simply want to bow out.

HighwayStar

4,257 posts

144 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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skwdenyer said:
carinaman said:
Uncle Joe Saward mentioned Audi buying the McLaren F1 concern in the Missed Apex podcast earlier in the week. I thought it was a revelation but seems PHers were there 2-3 weeks ago.

He said the McLaren road car division was of interest to another car manufacturer.

Edited by carinaman on Friday 3rd December 11:37
Joe frequently has his finger on the pulse. He suggests Audi interested in buying McLaren F1, BMW interested in buying McLaren Cars, and then Porsche as an additional entrant (engines only, but possibly tech-shared with the Audi programme).

It would seem to me to be a great shame if either - or both - were sold to multinationals. The F1 team should be on the brink of profitability with the new caps coming in, whilst the road car operation has achieved a great deal in a short time - in fact, when *was* the last time somebody set up a car operation like this and grew to this scale so quickly (it at all)?

But the current principals may simply want to bow out.
Porsche already have a connection within the F1 team. Team Principal Andreas Seidl ran Porsche’s LMP program before moving to McLaren.
I'd like to see Mclaren stay independent as they are but if a deal had to be done, I’d rather see the road car division at BMW. With Audi R8, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Porsche in the stable where would Mclaren fit. BMW would be more inclined to assist where needed but allow Mclaren to do what they do best. IMO

skwdenyer

16,501 posts

240 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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HighwayStar said:
Porsche already have a connection within the F1 team. Team Principal Andreas Seidl ran Porsche’s LMP program before moving to McLaren.
I'd like to see Mclaren stay independent as they are but if a deal had to be done, I’d rather see the road car division at BMW. With Audi R8, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Porsche in the stable where would Mclaren fit. BMW would be more inclined to assist where needed but allow Mclaren to do what they do best. IMO
I sort of agree with you, but after seeing the way in which BMW handled their last major UK auto purchase, I'm not so very sure.

HighwayStar

4,257 posts

144 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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skwdenyer said:
HighwayStar said:
Porsche already have a connection within the F1 team. Team Principal Andreas Seidl ran Porsche’s LMP program before moving to McLaren.
I'd like to see Mclaren stay independent as they are but if a deal had to be done, I’d rather see the road car division at BMW. With Audi R8, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Porsche in the stable where would Mclaren fit. BMW would be more inclined to assist where needed but allow Mclaren to do what they do best. IMO
I sort of agree with you, but after seeing the way in which BMW handled their last major UK auto purchase, I'm not so very sure.
Rolls Royce? I believe it was their last U.K. purchase, and quite the deal. Around £40m for the name and the logo. VW thought they were getting everything. They got the factories.
RR have done very well under BMW ownership.

skwdenyer

16,501 posts

240 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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HighwayStar said:
skwdenyer said:
HighwayStar said:
Porsche already have a connection within the F1 team. Team Principal Andreas Seidl ran Porsche’s LMP program before moving to McLaren.
I'd like to see Mclaren stay independent as they are but if a deal had to be done, I’d rather see the road car division at BMW. With Audi R8, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Porsche in the stable where would Mclaren fit. BMW would be more inclined to assist where needed but allow Mclaren to do what they do best. IMO
I sort of agree with you, but after seeing the way in which BMW handled their last major UK auto purchase, I'm not so very sure.
Rolls Royce? I believe it was their last U.K. purchase, and quite the deal. Around £40m for the name and the logo. VW thought they were getting everything. They got the factories.
RR have done very well under BMW ownership.
Fair enough, called on that one. I was talking about MG Rover.

entropy

5,442 posts

203 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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HustleRussell

24,701 posts

160 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Zak very outspoken during this off-season. Interesting that he’d mention Martin Whitmarsh by name in discussion about Mclaren’s lack of success, given that Whitmarsh is back in the paddock this year.

ETA: almost like a guy who knows he’s leaving…

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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Can’t see Zak leaving personally, but out or not.