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JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Superbad said:
Beat me to it!

All is not well at Witney.

rdjohn

6,190 posts

196 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Or even Woking?

That is amazing, having ousted Ron. So they are left with some suits from the wealth fund, and employees.

I have zero confidence that Zak can see McLaren through this mess. Alonso seems more a liability than an asset right now.

How could it come to this?




TheLimla

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1,829 posts

195 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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It's looking grim for them, that's for sure!

tight fart

2,929 posts

274 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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The link seems to have disappeared?

tigerkoi

2,927 posts

199 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Thanks for the breaking news.
It’s subtle, but what I think is interesting is how some of these stories about McLaren aren’t breaking in the Motorsport press. The “govt investigation”, came through the Telegraph. This story on Ojjeh, the Independent.

If this is true, and further substantiated across other outlets, about Ojjeh, I wonder if this is more linked to his general health and maybe desire to enjoy other things. Articles say he’s resigned, but that doesn’t indicate any change of shareholding (yet), just relinquishing his EXCOMM role alongside the Sheikh.


tigerkoi

2,927 posts

199 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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tight fart said:
The link seems to have disappeared?
You’re right...it just reverts to the Indy homepage.

As I say above, it’s strange some of these stories are breaking in publications like the Telegraph/Indy. You could think about all this quite cynically... smile

Sam993

1,302 posts

73 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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tight fart said:
The link seems to have disappeared?
Interesting, if you google the link there's a cached copy still available.

RichB

51,640 posts

285 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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tigerkoi said:
tight fart said:
The link seems to have disappeared?
You’re right...it just reverts to the Indy homepage. As I say above, it’s strange some of these stories are breaking in publications like the Telegraph/Indy. You could think about all this quite cynically... smile
Link

Doesn't say much though

Edited by RichB on Monday 6th August 21:34

tigerkoi

2,927 posts

199 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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RichB said:
tigerkoi said:
tight fart said:
The link seems to have disappeared?
You’re right...it just reverts to the Indy homepage. As I say above, it’s strange some of these stories are breaking in publications like the Telegraph/Indy. You could think about all this quite cynically... smile
Link

Doesn't say much though

Edited by RichB on Monday 6th August 21:34
GPBlog just reference the Indy, and it seems just rushed response to the original article. I don’t mean to discount it but the Indy is the one that seems to be sitting on some “news” yet has pulled the story within hours.

Also GPBlog are just blurring lines. Boullier was just an employee in the F1 structure that took a bullet. Ojjeh owns a quarter of the whole wider thing. If the Ojjeh thing is true it’s not all part of the same “restructure”.

CoolHands

18,698 posts

196 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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How have McLaren got that page taken down then?

thegreenhell

15,427 posts

220 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Snapshot of the headline from the Independent F1 page was all I could get. Even that isn't there anymore now.


davidd

6,452 posts

285 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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The link is back up. Article by Christian Sylt who is not your typical F1 reporter...

Vaud

50,617 posts

156 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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davidd said:
The link is back up. Article by Christian Sylt who is not your typical F1 reporter...
And backed by the companies house filing

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/ThmJLr...

Vaud

50,617 posts

156 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Vaud said:
davidd said:
The link is back up. Article by Christian Sylt who is not your typical F1 reporter...
And backed by the companies house filing

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/ThmJLr...
But now clarified by Mclaren

http://www.f1i.com/news/313543-mclaren-rubbishes-m...

davidd

6,452 posts

285 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Vaud said:
Interesting wording, he is still a director of McLaren Group Ltd.


Quickly looking through their co house entries.. what a mess.

Vaud

50,617 posts

156 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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davidd said:
Interesting wording, he is still a director of McLaren Group Ltd.


Quickly looking through their co house entries.. what a mess.
Quite common in companies with multiple divisions and entities. I work for a global company and we have about 200 entities from various acquisitions.

tigerkoi

2,927 posts

199 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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There’s an obvious mismatch in reading what’s coming from the Companies House site.

McLaren Technology Group Limited (01967715), the holding company...if you view via Ojjeh’s records (alongside TAG etc) has him as resigned from back in 2013. But if you look up the record for 01967715 separately it shows Ojjeh very much active, alongside a slew of new appointees like Neale, Buddin etc.

So whilst he may have resigned from the subsidiaries (Racing and Applied), he still looks present on the holding company record.

This could just be a tidy up according to the McLaren press release, but I find it strange that the Independent ran the story, spiked it, now it’s back - almost as if if they think there’s something going on. Additionally why a tidy up now? Might be about reorganising shareholdings more acutely?



davidd

6,452 posts

285 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Vaud said:
Quite common in companies with multiple divisions and entities. I work for a global company and we have about 200 entities from various acquisitions.
I know how complicated companies can get, I was thinking aloud it was more 'McLaren... what a mess' wink

Vaud

50,617 posts

156 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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davidd said:
I know how complicated companies can get, I was thinking aloud it was more 'McLaren... what a mess' wink
Ahhh.. I agree smile