The Official 2018 German Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

[Derek Smith]

Zoobeef said:

Hamilton has said his steering failed on the exit of turn 1 so was already broken by the bumpy bit. That caused no damage.

Wolff's story a little different, but then he needs to protect the name.

[Derek Smith]

ralphrj said:

He had surgery on his shoulder but had some complications which have caused his health to deteriorate significantly over the last hours.

All the announcements make it sound like death is imminent.

Thanks for that. But let's hope you're wrong.

[Sam993]

Derek Smith said:

I reckon Wolff's mentally broken.

(...)Given what Wolff has said, LH taking the normal line over the kerbs would appear to be the problem. (...)

What did Wolff say exactly?

[kambites]

Sam993 said:

What did Wolff say exactly?

Wolff said the oil leak started as he went over the kerb but was not caused by his driving. I suppose you can take that two ways - either riding the kerb caused the leak but that was due to a fault in the car and it should have dealt with it or it was coincidence that riding the kerb happened to coincide with the oil leak starting.

[Sam993]

kambites said:

Sam993 said:

What did Wolff say exactly?

Wolff said the oil leak started as he went over the kerb but was not caused by his driving. I suppose you can take that two ways - either riding the kerb caused the leak but that was due to a fault in the car and it should have dealt with it or it was coincidence that riding the kerb happened to coincide with the oil leak starting.

Thanks.

[tigerkoi]

ralphrj said:

Vaud said:

Sergio Marchionne out of Ferrari, effective immediately due to health reasons. Just announced.

http://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/24158855/sergio-...

Sounds like either a boardroom battle with health being the polite exit, or that he is genuinely more seriously ill.

Edited by Vaud on Saturday 21st July 18:33

He had surgery on his shoulder but had some complications which have caused his health to deteriorate significantly over the last hours.

All the announcements make it sound like death is imminent.

Marchionne had been looking more and more “weatherbeaten” over the last year. His health has obviously been declining, and at FCA, he, Elkann were preparing for him to sign off in a smooth transition with a future management structure in the works. But obviously in the last month, whatever was afflicting him has got a lot, lot worse. Word is that he hadn’t been seen in a number of weeks.

He would never have been forced out of FCA. Never. This is all about a succession plan that was already fairly fleshed out, but now brought forward. If he is as desperately ill as most publications (business & sport) are nudging at, then being Marchionne that would be a severe share price mover (- not +) if breaking news say, midweek.

On Wall St, Marchionne is one of the few industrialist CEOs who’s revered. But bugger all that, hope he pulls through.

[SmoothCriminal]

Really hate it when they do Vettels radio after a pole/win and he goes into all that Italian bks gratize rigatize multiple times.

[Zoobeef]

kambites said:

Sam993 said:

What did Wolff say exactly?

Wolff said the oil leak started as he went over the kerb but was not caused by his driving. I suppose you can take that two ways - either riding the kerb caused the leak but that was due to a fault in the car and it should have dealt with it or it was coincidence that riding the kerb happened to coincide with the oil leak starting.

Hamilton said it was the exit kerb, so before the bouncy bit of kerb. Did Wolff specify which bit of kerb he was talking about?

[Vaud]

SmoothCriminal said:

Really hate it when they do Vettels radio after a pole/win and he goes into all that Italian bks gratize rigatize multiple times.

Why? Seems a strange thing to be annoyed about. Non native speaker thanking his employer in their native language....

[kambites]

Zoobeef said:

Hamilton said it was the exit kerb, so before the bouncy bit of kerb. Did Wolff specify which bit of kerb he was talking about?

The statement I've seen from him (quoted on the BBC website) was: "Hamilton suffered a hydraulic leak as he was going over the kerbs at Turn One. This caused a power-steering failure, which caused the car to bounce over the rough ground as he rejoined the track.".

I would assume that means the hydraulics let go as he left the track but the problem didn't obviously manifest until he tried to rejoin.

[Hungrymc]

Paul671 said:

poo at Paul's said:

He needs to pull himself together, and soon, otherwise this Championship is Vettel's to lose.

It's been Vettel's to lose all season. The Ferrari is quicker and more reliable, plus they seem to have some luck too. He should be further ahead IMO.

Think it was Seb’s to lose last year too. But less mistakes and an even better car will see him home this year.

[Hungrymc]

kambites said:

I would assume that means the hydraulics let go as he left the track but the problem didn't obviously manifest until he tried to rejoin.

It looked really clumsy once he’d left the track. Didn’t seem to pick a good route back onto the tarmac. I wonder if the failure made rejoining look a mess?

Wonderful lap by Seb (and Bottas)

[SmoothCriminal]

Lewis had the 360 camera on for quali today heh.

https://youtu.be/fZi44FQD2nc

[DuckAvenger]

Lewis really has been learning from his friend, Neymar.

[Zoobeef]

On the on board he was fully off the power from the first moment of him hitting the kerbs.

[SmoothCriminal]

Vaud said:

SmoothCriminal said:

Really hate it when they do Vettels radio after a pole/win and he goes into all that Italian bks gratize rigatize multiple times.

Why? Seems a strange thing to be annoyed about. Non native speaker thanking his employer in their native language....

Because it's so over the top and the same thing all the time. By all means congratulate the team and I applaud him for doing it in their native tounge but please change it once in a while.

[rallycross]

SmoothCriminal said:

Because it's so over the top and the same thing all the time. By all means congratulate the team and I applaud him for doing it in their native tounge but please change it once in a while.

Oh really ?
I thought it shows a nice degree of respect and intellect between team and driver that is quite unusual from An F1 driver.

[anonymous-user]

SmoothCriminal said:

Vaud said:

SmoothCriminal said:

Really hate it when they do Vettels radio after a pole/win and he goes into all that Italian bks gratize rigatize multiple times.

Why? Seems a strange thing to be annoyed about. Non native speaker thanking his employer in their native language....

Because it's so over the top and the same thing all the time. By all means congratulate the team and I applaud him for doing it in their native tounge but please change it once in a while.

How else would you say “Thanks Guys”? It’s probably what any other driver would say, in one language or another and hardly over the top when the guys are, in the main, Italian.

And he is quite fluent in Italian, and no doubt can spell in it too, which is clearly not your forte.

[Sam993]

SmoothCriminal said:

Vaud said:

SmoothCriminal said:

Really hate it when they do Vettels radio after a pole/win and he goes into all that Italian bks gratize rigatize multiple times.

Why? Seems a strange thing to be annoyed about. Non native speaker thanking his employer in their native language....

Because it's so over the top and the same thing all the time. By all means congratulate the team and I applaud him for doing it in their native tounge but please change it once in a while.

That's the new finger basically. I don't mind it (except the "ratatatat tat" cringe bit, whatever it is supposed to mean, even he admitted it means nothing).

[anonymous-user]

Paul671 said:

It's been Vettel's to lose all season. The Ferrari is quicker and more reliable, plus they seem to have some luck too. He should be further ahead IMO.

Hmm...........................

The Ferrari seems more level if anything with the Mercedes which is refreshing since it has been a one team advantage since 2014.

Anyway your thoughts are not what Toto Wolf thinks.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-motor-f1-germany...

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 21st July 22:44