Dan Ticktum Can't Test - Boohoo or suck it up sunshine?
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Deesee said:
here's his twitter
https://twitter.com/luca_corberi
He's either a complete arse so so genius created a parody account months ago, or a complete C***
I think it is a fake account https://twitter.com/luca_corberi
He's either a complete arse so so genius created a parody account months ago, or a complete C***
vaud said:
Deesee said:
here's his twitter
https://twitter.com/luca_corberi
He's either a complete arse so so genius created a parody account months ago, or a complete C***
I think it is a fake account https://twitter.com/luca_corberi
He's either a complete arse so so genius created a parody account months ago, or a complete C***
super7 said:
Does this strop rank higher than Dan's?
Luca Corberi Fight with Paolo Ippolito | Karting World championships Final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJQ5XzIGs8
Dan has some competition :-)
I guess looking at it objectively you would say that Corberi throwing that nosecone could have really injured or killed a driver if it had hit them on the head. He made a conscious decision to wait there for a lap and then throw it. The KZ karts would also have been travelling at a far faster race speed than Ticktum was at when he took out Collard behind the safety car.Luca Corberi Fight with Paolo Ippolito | Karting World championships Final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJQ5XzIGs8
Dan has some competition :-)
When you remove prior thought process and anger, the Ticktum incident was fundamentally two modern cars colliding on an FIA grade 1 track with an abundance of run off so the risk of injury to himself or Collard was minimal in comparison to throwing a large part of a vehicle at someone coming past as Corberi did. However with that being said, Dan had his red mist moment behind the safety car and that meant there were marshals on track which is an additional aggravating factor to consider.
Which is worse? They are both entirely unacceptable actions but I am leaning toward Corberi being worse overall. Any chance of a career is over for Corberi and with the biggest names in world motor sport calling for a lifetime ban he is finished before he has started and rightly so. Felipe Massa was also present at Lonato as the CIK president, so they will surely have to take swift action. I think a life ban is the only acceptable outcome for that.
Tonykart will no doubt want to distance themselves from Corberi too and TK have big sponsors in Petronas who will not want any association with someone like Corberi.
His old man's actions after the race were disgusting as he ran over and floored the other driver in parc ferme, and he owns the Lonato track!! The CIK-FIA should refuse to go back to Lonato ever again which would hit the Corberi family where it hurts most....in their pocket. It won't happen though as Lonato is one of the iconic world karting venues.
TwentyFive said:
I guess looking at it objectively you would say that Corberi throwing that nosecone could have really injured or killed a driver if it had hit them on the head.
Inexcusable behavior of course and no excuses, but let's not be sensationalist- nobody is dying or being seriously injured by a blow moulded plastic bumper. That's less than a kilo. TwentyFive said:
Which is worse? They are both entirely unacceptable actions but I am leaning toward Corberi being worse overall. Any chance of a career is over for Corberi and with the biggest names in world motor sport calling for a lifetime ban he is finished before he has started and rightly so. Felipe Massa was also present at Lonato as the CIK president, so they will surely have to take swift action. I think a life ban is the only acceptable outcome for that.
Tonykart will no doubt want to distance themselves from Corberi too and TK have big sponsors in Petronas who will not want any association with someone like Corberi.
His old man's actions after the race were disgusting as he ran over and floored the other driver in parc ferme, and he owns the Lonato track!! The CIK-FIA should refuse to go back to Lonato ever again which would hit the Corberi family where it hurts most....in their pocket. It won't happen though as Lonato is one of the iconic world karting venues.
Yep, I'd agree with that. Corberi throws a nose cone at the driver and his dad tries to beat him up. Goodbye Tonykart will no doubt want to distance themselves from Corberi too and TK have big sponsors in Petronas who will not want any association with someone like Corberi.
His old man's actions after the race were disgusting as he ran over and floored the other driver in parc ferme, and he owns the Lonato track!! The CIK-FIA should refuse to go back to Lonato ever again which would hit the Corberi family where it hurts most....in their pocket. It won't happen though as Lonato is one of the iconic world karting venues.
s!HustleRussell said:
TwentyFive said:
I guess looking at it objectively you would say that Corberi throwing that nosecone could have really injured or killed a driver if it had hit them on the head.
Inexcusable behavior of course and no excuses, but let's not be sensationalist- nobody is dying or being seriously injured by a blow moulded plastic bumper. That's less than a kilo. We can then get Massa's opinion about springs and things bouncing off heads.... He was there and no doubt witnessed the whole mess and i'm sure he'd have something to say about it.
super7 said:
HustleRussell said:
TwentyFive said:
I guess looking at it objectively you would say that Corberi throwing that nosecone could have really injured or killed a driver if it had hit them on the head.
Inexcusable behavior of course and no excuses, but let's not be sensationalist- nobody is dying or being seriously injured by a blow moulded plastic bumper. That's less than a kilo. We can then get Massa's opinion about springs and things bouncing off heads.... He was there and no doubt witnessed the whole mess and i'm sure he'd have something to say about it.
And are you seriously comparing an F1 metal spring hitting a driver going flat out in an F1 car to this?! Get a grip (on reality) man!
Well a quick google says a cadet nose cone is 2kg. An adult one must be 2.5-3kg minimum - it's quite a bit bigger. Played with this kinetic energy calculator, (https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/physics/kinetic.php)...
I'd not want 1225 J of impact, which from what I can see is the same as a 25kg weight at 9.8m/s, so hitting that nose cone at 70 is roughly equivalent to dropping a 25kg wight on your foot. That'd smart a little.
re. behaviour - in addition to the obvious: It's also the biggest of fails.
Throws like a spaz; missed intended target.
So he stomps back to park ferme, then...
Failed to do much to opponent despite totally blindside sneak attack on small child, losing the initial skirmish.
When he does land a punch, he punches kid in a helmet in the head.
Superhero in black then comes in for further ambush, also fails to defeat small child.
Even if they don't get banned, they should be embarrased to be seen in public again. So disappointed no-one bothered to drop him with a decent shot to the guts, he'd presumably drop like a sack of spuds..
I'd not want 1225 J of impact, which from what I can see is the same as a 25kg weight at 9.8m/s, so hitting that nose cone at 70 is roughly equivalent to dropping a 25kg wight on your foot. That'd smart a little.
re. behaviour - in addition to the obvious: It's also the biggest of fails.
Throws like a spaz; missed intended target.
So he stomps back to park ferme, then...
Failed to do much to opponent despite totally blindside sneak attack on small child, losing the initial skirmish.
When he does land a punch, he punches kid in a helmet in the head.
Superhero in black then comes in for further ambush, also fails to defeat small child.
Even if they don't get banned, they should be embarrased to be seen in public again. So disappointed no-one bothered to drop him with a decent shot to the guts, he'd presumably drop like a sack of spuds..
Frimley111R said:
TwentyFive said:
Which is worse? They are both entirely unacceptable actions but I am leaning toward Corberi being worse overall. Any chance of a career is over for Corberi and with the biggest names in world motor sport calling for a lifetime ban he is finished before he has started and rightly so. Felipe Massa was also present at Lonato as the CIK president, so they will surely have to take swift action. I think a life ban is the only acceptable outcome for that.
Tonykart will no doubt want to distance themselves from Corberi too and TK have big sponsors in Petronas who will not want any association with someone like Corberi.
His old man's actions after the race were disgusting as he ran over and floored the other driver in parc ferme, and he owns the Lonato track!! The CIK-FIA should refuse to go back to Lonato ever again which would hit the Corberi family where it hurts most....in their pocket. It won't happen though as Lonato is one of the iconic world karting venues.
Yep, I'd agree with that. Corberi throws a nose cone at the driver and his dad tries to beat him up. Goodbye Tonykart will no doubt want to distance themselves from Corberi too and TK have big sponsors in Petronas who will not want any association with someone like Corberi.
His old man's actions after the race were disgusting as he ran over and floored the other driver in parc ferme, and he owns the Lonato track!! The CIK-FIA should refuse to go back to Lonato ever again which would hit the Corberi family where it hurts most....in their pocket. It won't happen though as Lonato is one of the iconic world karting venues.
s!oobster said:
Wasn't Justin Wilson's extremely sad demise caused by the nosecone of another car hitting him on the head?
Ok, faster speeds involved and I assume the nosecone of an Indy car is heavier than a kart bumper, but potential for quite a serious injury if it hit at the 'right' angle/spot?
Apparently so: the implications of being hit are perhaps less of an issue with a kart, however the risk of distraction & subsequent loss of control could have been very serious. An appalling display, for which the punishment needs to be appropriate.Ok, faster speeds involved and I assume the nosecone of an Indy car is heavier than a kart bumper, but potential for quite a serious injury if it hit at the 'right' angle/spot?
I should think the punishment would take into account the potential consequences as much as the actual actions. Like the Ticktum incident where there could have been marshals on track, being hit on the head without warning by something could cause a crash in what looks to be an unusual area to crash, therefore little runoff etc.
Smitters said:
I should think the punishment would take into account the potential consequences as much as the actual actions. Like the Ticktum incident where there could have been marshals on track, being hit on the head without warning by something could cause a crash in what looks to be an unusual area to crash, therefore little runoff etc.
He’s vowed to never race again and has offered his race license back. Frimley111R said:
Leithen said:
Petrus1983 said:
He’s vowed to never race again and has offered his race license back.
That may be more about the survival of the family business than his future motorsport participation. 
To be fair to Dan Trantrum, we should probably keep this thread to being about him
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