Dan Ticktum Can't Test - Boohoo or suck it up sunshine?

[thegreenhell]

For someone who's supposedly very fast he has a pretty poor record of race results.

[Petrus1983]

Sandpit Steve said:

Yuki is funny, and leaned most of the English he knows from hanging out with a bunch of mechanics, who taught him every bad word in the book!

There's a lot to be said for this - and 20 years ago I travelled around with race mechanics and I'm glad I didn't learn my English from them

Yuki is very likeable though - obviously passionate in the car - but there's no doubt the mechanics like him.

Plus he does things like this - not as a photo op - but because he's a good guy. He's not screaming for a taxi...

[Muzzer79]

EDLT said:

On Ticktum being the fastest on the sim: There are some youtubers who'd absolutely school him and yet they aren't getting drives in real cars.

Please tell me you aren't comparing an actual FE/F1/F2 race team sim rig with a YouTuber on a home setup.

Plus, who are these YouTubers who would 'school' him? Please share their consistent results against him with the rest of us.

[EDLT]

Muzzer79 said:

EDLT said:

On Ticktum being the fastest on the sim: There are some youtubers who'd absolutely school him and yet they aren't getting drives in real cars.

Please tell me you aren't comparing an actual FE/F1/F2 race team sim rig with a YouTuber on a home setup.

Plus, who are these YouTubers who would 'school' him? Please share their consistent results against him with the rest of us.

Why do you dismiss them out of hand? They have a level playing field and compete against F1 drivers who are obviously better than Ticktum. Putting them in a more advanced simulator isn't going to suddenly make them useless.

[Smitters]

EDLT said:

Muzzer79 said:

EDLT said:

On Ticktum being the fastest on the sim: There are some youtubers who'd absolutely school him and yet they aren't getting drives in real cars.

Please tell me you aren't comparing an actual FE/F1/F2 race team sim rig with a YouTuber on a home setup.

Plus, who are these YouTubers who would 'school' him? Please share their consistent results against him with the rest of us.

Why do you dismiss them out of hand? They have a level playing field and compete against F1 drivers who are obviously better than Ticktum. Putting them in a more advanced simulator isn't going to suddenly make them useless.

I imagine if they ever did something like this and involved real cars, you could even make a movie about it. And take them to Le Mans. Or something.

[Petrus1983]

For me it's the fear factor. It's easy to go balls out when you can't get hurt. Add real g forces and real pain - things change.

[Cyder]

Petrus1983 said:

For me it's the fear factor. It's easy to go balls out when you can't get hurt. Add real g forces and real pain - things change.

I think it was on the IoM TT documentary aired on ITV4 recently that one of the riders said he can do a 128mph lap in real life, but on the Playstation can achieve 132mph or so without fear.

[Some Gump]

Dan has a rival!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1d_4jD2bDM

Enzo Deligny went full mental, ignored the drive through, ignored black flags for remainder of race whilst having a visible toys and pram divergence.


Part of me thinks this is just a young spoled kids having a wobbler, the other part thinks this is what RB Juniors get when the precedent that Ticktum not getting the boot has been set...

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fans-call-ban-red-bu...

[budgie smuggler]

Some Gump said:

Dan has a rival!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1d_4jD2bDM

Enzo Deligny went full mental, ignored the drive through, ignored black flags for remainder of race whilst having a visible toys and pram divergence.


Part of me thinks this is just a young spoled kids having a wobbler, the other part thinks this is what RB Juniors get when the precedent that Ticktum not getting the boot has been set...

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fans-call-ban-red-bu...

Bell end. In motorsport though, as long as you have the money this kind of stuff doesn't matter.

[CoolHands]

Lol

Skip to 10.50 for the action; and tantrum at 27.00

Edited by CoolHands on Monday 13th November 13:23

[TheDeuce]

CoolHands said:

Lol

Skip to 10.50 for the action; and tantrum at 27.00

Edited by CoolHands on Monday 13th November 13:23

wow, what a fool.

I wonder if he honestly thought that he had done nothing wrong and concluded it was better to keep going for the sake of holding his place in 3rd in the championship and then arguing whether the original penalty was justified in the first place? I can sort of see some logic there, as if he took the penalty and then 'in some magic alternate universe' was able to convince the stewards the penalty was incorrect, he would still have lost his position regardless.

But in reality he was obviously wrong at the start, deserved the penalty and then broke a very serious rule each lap thereafter, a significant string of offences!

[CoolHands]

I reckon he’ll be the perfect MV successor

[MustangGT]

Idiotic behaviour, but at least he did not attack another driver, (that we see).

[Altrezia]

CoolHands said:

I reckon he’ll be the perfect MV successor

100%. The push wasn't that different to Max at the start of the COTA race, and nobody cared about that one. Youngsters just replicate what they see.

[PhilAsia]

Some Gump said:

Dan has a rival!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1d_4jD2bDM

Enzo Deligny went full mental, ignored the drive through, ignored black flags for remainder of race whilst having a visible toys and pram divergence.


Part of me thinks this is just a young spoled kids having a wobbler, the other part thinks this is what RB Juniors get when the precedent that Ticktum not getting the boot has been set...

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fans-call-ban-red-bu...

I can see Enzo's point. If Max can carry Lewis six car widths off the track at Brasil (2021) and get no penalty, then surely he should be fine as the precedent has been set...!?

After all, as Horner stated, "That is all about letting them race..."

[TheDeuce]

PhilAsia said:

Some Gump said:

Dan has a rival!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1d_4jD2bDM

Enzo Deligny went full mental, ignored the drive through, ignored black flags for remainder of race whilst having a visible toys and pram divergence.


Part of me thinks this is just a young spoled kids having a wobbler, the other part thinks this is what RB Juniors get when the precedent that Ticktum not getting the boot has been set...

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fans-call-ban-red-bu...

I can see Enzo's point. If Max can carry Lewis six car widths off the track at Brasil (2021) and get no penalty, then surely he should be fine as the precedent has been set...!?

The thing is... the officials don't recognise this concept of precedent. Just because one driver gets away with something doesn't mean another one will also get away with the same thing. Even if it should in a fair world.

But anyway, in this instance he 100% failed to obey the flags - in fact he did so endless times which should in theory count as separate offences each time... and just ignoring such an instruction one time is considered extremely serious. It's hard to imagine he won't at very least be DQ'd from this entire season and most likely a one year ban too. I can't see how they can avoid a ban following such behaviour, to not do so would be to accept such behaviour.

[PhilAsia]

TheDeuce said:

PhilAsia said:

Some Gump said:

Dan has a rival!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1d_4jD2bDM

Enzo Deligny went full mental, ignored the drive through, ignored black flags for remainder of race whilst having a visible toys and pram divergence.


Part of me thinks this is just a young spoled kids having a wobbler, the other part thinks this is what RB Juniors get when the precedent that Ticktum not getting the boot has been set...

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fans-call-ban-red-bu...

I can see Enzo's point. If Max can carry Lewis six car widths off the track at Brasil (2021) and get no penalty, then surely he should be fine as the precedent has been set...!?

The thing is... the officials don't recognise this concept of precedent. Just because one driver gets away with something doesn't mean another one will also get away with the same thing. Even if it should in a fair world.

You are correct. . I understand that the stewards do their own thing TheDeuce. The point I was trying to make (poorly it seems) is that Enzo has seen others get away with unsportsmanlike (and often dangerous) driving, so they - at a (probable) impressionable age and time in their career - think they can do the same and seem shocked and confounded when they cannot. Hope that clears up my point

[Mr Pointy]

Ok look, another 24 carat tt in a Red Bull.

[TheDeuce]

PhilAsia said:

TheDeuce said:

PhilAsia said:

Some Gump said:

Dan has a rival!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1d_4jD2bDM

Enzo Deligny went full mental, ignored the drive through, ignored black flags for remainder of race whilst having a visible toys and pram divergence.


Part of me thinks this is just a young spoled kids having a wobbler, the other part thinks this is what RB Juniors get when the precedent that Ticktum not getting the boot has been set...

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fans-call-ban-red-bu...

I can see Enzo's point. If Max can carry Lewis six car widths off the track at Brasil (2021) and get no penalty, then surely he should be fine as the precedent has been set...!?

The thing is... the officials don't recognise this concept of precedent. Just because one driver gets away with something doesn't mean another one will also get away with the same thing. Even if it should in a fair world.

You are correct. . I understand that the stewards do their own thing TheDeuce. The point I was trying to make (poorly it seems) is that Enzo has seen others get away with unsportsmanlike (and often dangerous) driving, so they - at a (probable) impressionable age and time in their career - think they can do the same and seem shocked and confounded when they cannot. Hope that clears up my point

Got you

And yes, I agree.

[PhilAsia]

TheDeuce said:

PhilAsia said:

TheDeuce said:

PhilAsia said:

Some Gump said:

Dan has a rival!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1d_4jD2bDM

Enzo Deligny went full mental, ignored the drive through, ignored black flags for remainder of race whilst having a visible toys and pram divergence.


Part of me thinks this is just a young spoled kids having a wobbler, the other part thinks this is what RB Juniors get when the precedent that Ticktum not getting the boot has been set...

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fans-call-ban-red-bu...

I can see Enzo's point. If Max can carry Lewis six car widths off the track at Brasil (2021) and get no penalty, then surely he should be fine as the precedent has been set...!?

The thing is... the officials don't recognise this concept of precedent. Just because one driver gets away with something doesn't mean another one will also get away with the same thing. Even if it should in a fair world.

You are correct. . I understand that the stewards do their own thing TheDeuce. The point I was trying to make (poorly it seems) is that Enzo has seen others get away with unsportsmanlike (and often dangerous) driving, so they - at a (probable) impressionable age and time in their career - think they can do the same and seem shocked and confounded when they cannot. Hope that clears up my point

Got you

And yes, I agree.